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Thread: RAW vs JPEG: How significant is the difference in photo quality?

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    If your camera allows it, you can always shoot in RAW+ (takes a RAW image plus a jpeg) , then you can work from there and decide, best of both worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanfeishen View Post
    If your camera allows it, you can always shoot in RAW+ (takes a RAW image plus a jpeg) , then you can work from there and decide, best of both worlds.
    That would seem like good advice but I know a lot of people look at the jpeg and then ask why the RAW image doesn't "pop" or it looks washed out. The raw image lets you control how the final image is "developed." If you think you may want to do any adjustments or effects to an image then shoot raw otherwise just shoot jpeg.

    Think of it this way. The raw file is a negative. It's needs processing/developing to give you the final product. A out the camera jpeg is like a photo print, to make adjustments means "rescanning" and adjusting, this causes image degradation. This is probably a little over simplified but you understand what I'm getting at? There is a time and place for each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldmelsa View Post
    That's not true. And it does not even matter to photography.
    It is true.

    Define photography. It sounds like your definition is pressing the button...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    SIDEBAR / While technically trivial, I'd never make this type of mod ... such a pity to alter reality in a shot specifically aimed at preserving memories. Shoeless at school is a great memory 30 years later, now erased. Pity. Tell your friend we object.
    i could not agree with you more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisc4290 View Post
    Friend is a professional photographer and uses a Nikon with a 45mp body.
    Maybe he is using one one these babies : http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/promotions/h4d-launch.aspx :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanS View Post
    Maybe he is using one one these babies : http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/promotions/h4d-launch.aspx :P
    To shoot school photos? I doubt it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    It is true.

    Define photography. It sounds like your definition is pressing the button...
    To me it sounds like he advocating getting things right in camera - iow everything up to and including the pressing of the button.

    Most people equate RAW with the digital darkroom but realistically, how many film photographers do you know who have even set foot inside a real darkroom let alone processed their own negatives because the majority of the ones I knew of would send their film off to the lab, unless they shot B&W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum Theory View Post
    To shoot school photos? I doubt it...
    I know I just thought I would throw it in the mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwana View Post
    To me it sounds like he advocating getting things right in camera - iow everything up to and including the pressing of the button.

    Most people equate RAW with the digital darkroom but realistically, how many film photographers do you know who have even set foot inside a real darkroom let alone processed their own negatives because the majority of the ones I knew of would send their film off to the lab, unless they shot B&W.
    I would not be able to do what I do without RAW... Not because I don't get it right in camera, but because I shoot scenes with a dynamic range that is impossible to get right in camera. Depends what you do. If you've got the storage space and you are not shooting 1000's of images at a time, there is no reason not to shoot RAW and have full control over the JPEG conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldmelsa View Post
    They will both produce the same quality.
    Nope. One is a 25 Mb file, one is a 3 Mb file. There is a definite difference in quality.

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    Way I see it: You either process the raw photo data yourself afterwards (RAW) - or you let the Canon/Nikon/etc software on the processor in the camera do it for you and spit out the resulting jpeg. Big competition between manufacturers on who can make the best software/chip to produce the best processed jpeg.

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    May be a bit late to jump on the wagon here, but here goes anyway. Unless you plan on doing a lot of post processing and manipulation, shooting in Jpeg will be fine. Your ZS8 gives you 14mp which should be more than enough for most photos.
    If you want to start playing with stuff like HDR etc, it might get worth to invest in a camera that shoots in RAW too. But with that comes an investment in software like Lightroom and an investment in time to learn how to use RAW properly.
    But if you are planning on shooting family photos, party shots, your pets etc etc, jpeg would be more than adequate to do the job. Rather make sure you know learn how the use the camera in Manual mode before you worry about RAW.

    As Chase Jarvis said, the best camera in the world is the one you have in your hands right now, so go out and shoot!

    PS. For the record, I shoot in RAW+Jpeg

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