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Thread: HTC cancels Desire HD Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade

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    HapticSimian: Fair enough. Danny Sullivan made a similar point: just because you're running an old version of Android doesn't mean your mobile experience is completely crippled. But I do think there are lots of legitimate reasons to want to be on ICS or JB. The biggest one in my view would probably be the ability run Chrome - the difference between that and the stock GB browser is like night and day. Not to mention the improved UI, improved system apps across the board, etc.

    And yes, this is just "capitalism in action". But if we're going to vote with our wallets, we might as well communicate our reasons to these companies so they at least know what they're doing wrong. (On that note, if any HTC representatives reading this forum: my first two Android phones were both HTCs. I have since switched to a Galaxy Nexus. The main reason I ditched HTC was because I gave up hope of ever receiving updates.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Elimentals View Post
    3. They normally would not even know what is on the latest versions or what they missing. Android's modular nature allows for applications to update without the need for an OS overall like other mobile OS's. One example of this is Google maps or even Gmail where iOS users need an entire OS upgrade Android users get the latest simply by updating the affected apps.
    Well, those system apps have a much better UI in Android 4.0+, so the picture is slightly more complicated than you suggest. But yes, this is one factor that helps to mitigate the damage caused by lack of updates.

    Another point in Android's favour is that at least when Android phones do get updated, they get all the features. For example, all Android phones with 2.0+ can do turn-by-turn navigation, and all phones that get Jelly Bean will be able to use the new voice actions. Thankfully Google does not engage in Apple's scummy tactics of forced obsolescence and holding back features like Siri and navigation from older handsets that could easily handle them on a technical level.

    However, my point has never been that iOS is better than Android. (If I believed that, I would use an iPhone instead of an Android phone.) But clearly Apple does do a much better job of supporting old handsets than any of the Android OEMs, and I would like to the Android OEMs improve in this area. If they could do a better job of pushing out updates, that would be good for consumers, good for developers, good for the Android ecosystem as a whole, and it would also be good for the OEMs own brand loyalty in the long run. If the OEMs drag their feet on this, then we as consumers can and should criticise them for it.

    I'm glad that you've had good experiences with MIUI, and that you've found it to be a reliable ROM. But to be honest, that sort-of proves my point. If a bunch of hobbyist Chinese developers who aren't even getting paid for their services can make ICS run reliably on the Desire HD, then why the hell can't HTC's own developers do the same thing, and then push out OTA an update for all those people who don't have the technical knowledge to flash custom ROMs? It is outrageous and pathetic that these companies can't support their own hardware as well as amateurs who do it for free.
    Last edited by Vulk; 16-07-2012 at 03:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elimentals View Post
    Unlike other ICS ROMs fully operational and this includes panoramic shoothing.
    Ok cool! Can you give us a heads up, why not start a new thread and get us to improve out HTC Desire HD's to that same level. I would really appreciate such effort ( I am sure many will) as it seems that HTC are dropping us another....

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    Well...seems the Desire HD update is back on according to HTC facebook. gsmarena posted a update on their article. It is only the Telsus Desire HD's that wont get the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockie View Post
    Well...seems the Desire HD update is back on according to HTC facebook. gsmarena posted a update on their article. It is only the Telsus Desire HD's that wont get the update.
    Linky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulk View Post
    I'm glad that you've had good experiences with MIUI, and that you've found it to be a reliable ROM. But to be honest, that sort-of proves my point. If a bunch of hobbyist Chinese developers who aren't even getting paid for their services can make ICS run reliably on the Desire HD, then why the hell can't HTC's own developers do the same thing, and then push out OTA an update for all those people who don't have the technical knowledge to flash custom ROMs? It is outrageous and pathetic that these companies can't support their own hardware as well as amateurs who do it for free.
    I guess it has to do with the other problem that OEMs are more interested in selling you a new phone instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wily me View Post
    Linky?

    Update: According to a post on Facebook, the Android 4.0 update for the Desire HD is still on track and is expected in July-August. Only the handsets on Telus' networks won't be getting the update
    http://www.gsmarena.com/ics_update_f...-news-4524.php
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    More speculation based on a Facebook post posted off of an email quoting the standard HTC update schedule.

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    Thanks, I hope to see this soon, but Elimentals peeked my interest in his custom rom solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abandonallhope View Post
    Oh I went to htcdev.com, unlocked my bootloader, flashed my recovery ROM or whatever it's called and have had several ROMs on it, but I've never "slapped" anything on an android, I don't think so. I didn't even have to know what I was doing, I just needed the ability to read.
    I haven't had the luxury; my rooting adventures up until now have all been prior to the unlocked bootloaders offered through htcdev. Hell, towards the end of the Desire's stay it involved screwing with the partition sizes on the ROM to get a decent iteration of Gingerbread running on it... Apologies for missing your attempt at humour... or sarcasm... or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by abandonallhope View Post
    Anyway on a serious note, 90% of all the custom roms for the desire s look kitsch and tacky and have some sort of mishap. Nothing beats a stock HTC image.
    That I can believe, which is why who happens to be developing for a given phone will in future also factor into my decision. Thus far I've been quite happy with the devs' work on the devices I've owned.

    In any event I think it's sufficient to say that shorter support cycles bother some more than others, and that I understand where those who are bugged by it come from.

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    I prefer HTC phones above any other manufacturer, and the long wait for official ICS on the current el cheapo is unlikely to make me get something else on my next upgrade.

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    I just tried MIUI on my Desire HD. Getting lots of FCs and UI delays. I have no idea why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockie View Post
    Well...seems the Desire HD update is back on according to HTC facebook. gsmarena posted a update on their article. It is only the Telsus Desire HD's that wont get the update.
    Exactly. People overeating. See second post on this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratty View Post
    Exactly. People overeating. See second post on this thread
    overeating? No wonder I am fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse View Post
    I just tried MIUI on my Desire HD. Getting lots of FCs and UI delays. I have no idea why.
    Nevermind. a format seems to have solved it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse View Post
    Nevermind. a format seems to have solved it
    Was just about to ask did you make sure you wiped both cache and factory reset before the flash.
    .... and thanks for all the fish.

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