The Cayman cost DOUBLE what the GT86 is, so I don't know who would make that comparison. Fazda the funny thing is you are trying to convince him with logic, but he's an obvious troll. Just ignore.
The Cayman cost DOUBLE what the GT86 is, so I don't know who would make that comparison. Fazda the funny thing is you are trying to convince him with logic, but he's an obvious troll. Just ignore.
Soos 'n choppie op die vuur.
Its an average engine.Originally Posted by Fazda
Not great. Would have been great 5 years ago but not now...
147kw Naturally Aspirated is a hatchback engine, its old tech, was decent for the Honda Type R new and old and the Toyota Runx Rsi which was 141kw I think.
Very silly to drop this engine into a "sportscar" in a horizontally opposed manner for "balance" and btw 205nm is a joke, no really its laughable.
Id like to be the Toyota 86 hater
Wait for the turbo version...if ever then it will most probably be over 400k.
Those are all front wheel drive cars. And if you want to argue that front wheel drive is more driver oriented, or gives a better driving experience, or even want to compare the two dynamically, then ill send you the number to this local insane asylum near a squatter camp, im sure they can help you.
Lets not forget, the GTI doesn't have a limited slip diff either. You cant have FUN with it. It might be a little bit faster, but that's not the point. If all you want is straight line speed, get a GTI. If you have the talent, and want to kick the arse out on a bend, this toyota is probably the best thing to do it in. Now that's fun. Personally, IMO this gt86 is in another league when it comes to the driving experience, and any one can argue the counter till they are blue in the face, fact is, you are wrongGive it a drive, you will fall in love with the chassis.. I promise you that.
Last edited by crysis; 23-07-2012 at 01:05 PM.
Sorry - the expert has spoken.Its an average engine.
Not great. Would have been great 5 years ago but not now...
147kw Naturally Aspirated is a hatchback engine, its old tech, was decent for the Honda Type R new and old and the Toyota Runx Rsi which was 141kw I think.
Very silly to drop this engine into a "sportscar" in a horizontally opposed manner for "balance" and btw 205nm is a joke, no really its laughable.
Id like to be the Toyota 86 hater
Let's leave it at that before you are tempted to write any more garbage.
let those who like it, buy it.
and those who dont, be still...
i think its a very nice shift from corolla's and aurises to something like this.
well done toyota SA.
as for price, value, similair priced cars, comparisons etc... all subjective and will always bear strong emotion etc..
i just see it for what it is, and its a paradigm shift for TSA...
Agreed,
If the 86 had a turbo, better interior etc. etc. it would be R500k+ and then it wouldn't be the sportscar bargain that it is.
If people don't like it, then they won't buy it. But trying to tell other people that they are wrong for liking something is a bit arrogant.
PS: I'm not that interested in an 86, but I can still see why it exists, why it is important and why it is something worth considering.
I think there's a wee bit of merit in what Haldex has been posting, only insofar as I also think the car has been over-hyped. None the less, for the money it'll probably be the best and most involving drive you'll get, and there's certainly something to be said for that. If that's all you're looking for, there won't be a better buy on the market.
I do however think that the engine's going to feel a little overburdened at Highveld altitude. Should be a hoot at the coast...
Those are all front wheel drive cars. And if you want to argue that front wheel drive is more driver oriented, or gives a better driving experience, or even want to compare the two dynamically, then ill send you the number to this local insane asylum near a squatter camp, im sure they can help you.
Lets not forget, the GTI doesn't have a limited slip diff either. You cant have FUN with it. It might be a little bit faster, but that's not the point. If all you want is straight line speed, get a GTI. If you have the talent, and want to kick the arse out on a bend, this toyota is probably the best thing to do it in. Now that's fun. Personally, IMO this gt86 is in another league when it comes to the driving experience, and any one can argue the counter till they are blue in the face, fact is, you are wrong
Really?
You need torque to "kick the arse" out.... lol!!
It seems to have a lot of talk but very little torque hehehehe
I cant understand this "driving experience" analogy everybody is using...
What is it? Care to explain?
You need acceleration to speed into bends and then out, if you slow into the bend and then slow out of the bend, any car will be "balanced" right?
So what is this driving experience that we've never had before?
No way you'll be getting this vehicles arse out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJb52...layer_embedded
Don't argue with Haldex. He's an automotive engineer apparently, so his word is law when it comes to torques and horsepowers. Obviously Top Gear and all the other producers of videos of this thing drifting, just photoshop'd the smoke and stuff in.No way you'll be getting this vehicles arse out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJb52...layer_embedded
I guess you this car is not for you, not because of its engine, not because of anything the car has or doesn't have. Its because you don't understand how to drive like a hooligan and have fun. I take it your a lexus person. You sure come across like that
It was a joke lolNo way you'll be getting this vehicles arse out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJb52...layer_embedded
Nowonder he is the drift king, maybe he drops to second gear to lose traction?
Either way, Ken Block drifts a Ford Fiesta!!!
Ok im done hating now...
Geez, I never insulted you, why insult me with the lexus comment? Ill take a Jag over a lousy Lexus.I guess you this car is not for you, not because of its engine, not because of anything the car has or doesn't have. Its because you don't understand how to drive like a hooligan and have fun. I take it your a lexus person. You sure come across like that
I dont drive like a hooligan or have any ambitions to drive like one.
Im sure one can have more Hooligan fun in a 1M or 135... but you might say it very expensive and motorplan and and and.
Ill just leave it that those in favour of the Toy86 are into cheap thrills, like cat, tik, sugars and cough mixture....
Enjoy!
Wrong. I smaak cat, tik, sugars and cough mixture but I'm not feeling the 86.
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