Nelson Mandela

[OGroteKoning]

I wonder if there is a Hitler day ...

[R13...]

I wonder if there is a Hitler day ...

Your hero?

[Apache]

I have a friend that was recently in touch with his family, old Madiba is old, pretty much completely senile. Some people think he is going to live forever, yes he has lasted but time is getting shorter. I'm afraid for when that day comes.

Be afraid... very afraid....

[Picard]

Be afraid... very afraid....

There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth ...

[R13...]

There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth ...

When did you go extreme right wing. I thought you were only just weird, but now you're crossing over?

[killadoob]

De Klerk only made the announcement. Do you know that PW offered to release Mandela in 1985, but he refused to accept the conditions of that release? I think those who never suffered will ever understand why he is revered. You're probably too young to get it.

There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.

[ChocolateBadger]

There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.

...And then ol Zuma came along

[R13...]

There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.

I was afraid to say you either never suffered or you're an obtuse idiot .

[Fudzy]

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.

Me too, the TRC proved the MK weren't the only ones committing terrorist activities. De Klerk okay'd a few bombings himself.

[ponder]

But did he actually commit any terrorist acts or was it more foot soldiers?

Co-founder and head of Umkhonto we Sizwe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe

[Pr⊕phet]

There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

That is the reason he is a hero. Either way you have to sit down and ask yourself what would i have done to the white man.

People can argue about the bombings and terrorist activities but those same people i would imagine have very little idea what the blacks went through. Both sides were bad but when the blacks came to power with mandela as their leader he never wanted revenge. Bloody hero if you ask me.

But what if this not the true story. What if it was all done for another reason riding under the veil of so called peace. Maybe you were a bit too naive to *just* believe a story made history from what you saw if there might have been more to be seen.

It still would have costed him nothing to say sorry... when he could. It only means that he has no real remorse for what he ordered to be done (or did himself) even if it had to be done to cause change. A man who has truly reached peace will had to stopped at a time and come to terms for all his actions not just those he want to, because of what has been done.

It takes little or nothing to be sorry for what you have done, in fact imho it would have truly attested to his jesushood. I have nothing against him part this and all those who just runs along with the song of the piper. One should be careful of whom he makes a messiah...

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Me too, the TRC proved the MK weren't the only ones committing terrorist activities. De Klerk okay'd a few bombings himself.

The same goes for Die Oom.

[TheHiveMind]

There is no suffering needed to realize mandela could have come out and declared war with the white man but instead he tried to unite the nation.

I bet he didn't crash his own economy, he didn't throw away his Godlike reputation given to him by the west, and didn't risk losing a war, all for you.

[ChocolateBadger]

History is told by the victor - Captain John Price, Modern Warfare 2

So that being said, history is not necessarily the truth

[JungleBoy]

...And then ol Zuma came along with his spear and ****ed everything up

[OGroteKoning]

Your hero?

Not at all. Was just wondering