Eclipse or netbeans and kick a$$ tutorials for a beginner

[D3x!]

as the title suggests?

and yes Java

[iAmThePope]

Netbeans:
http://netbeans.org/kb/ for Java

http://forum.codecall.net/topic/4055...sing-netbeans/ very comprehensive tut

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutori.../netbeans.html Oracles Tut

Eclipse
http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/ -> Java

http://www.vogella.com/articles/Eclipse/article.html -> IDE tutorial

[froot]

Personally I preferred Netbeans. It was more lightweight in my experience.

As for tutorials.... I've used http://www.youtube.com/user/thenewboston 's tuts for C# and C++ in the past, it's nice for introductions.

[Elimentals]

For video tutorials you might wanna check out http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php

I have loads more, but mostly for Android so lemme know if you want em.

[iAmThePope]

For video tutorials you might wanna check out http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php

I have loads more, but mostly for Android so lemme know if you want em.

Would you mind sending me some of the Android tutorials? Looking to get into that a bit more.

[Elimentals]

Would you mind sending me some of the Android tutorials? Looking to get into that a bit more.

Good place to start:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...id-development

As for IDE discussions:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...evelopment-IDE

[iAmThePope]

Good place to start:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...id-development

As for IDE discussions:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...evelopment-IDE

Great thanks

[Faultyboy]

Just started trying out NetBeans for some PHP work, coming from Notepad++ it's much easier to debug with looks like a keeper..

[D3x!]

so having dabbled a little in both now i dare say I prefer netbeans most, however there are one or two small things I prefer in eclipse.

[Majick]

Personal opinion: When starting Java as an absolute beginner I would recommend getting a decent text editor with syntax highlighting before using an IDE. When you are comfortable with the basics you can move on to an IDE (my favourite is IntelliJ IDEA).

I have met too many Java developers that don't even have an idea how Java's classpath works because they can only code using an IDE.

[D3x!]

Personal opinion: When starting Java as an absolute beginner I would recommend getting a decent text editor with syntax highlighting before using an IDE. When you are comfortable with the basics you can move on to an IDE (my favourite is IntelliJ IDEA).

I have met too many Java developers that don't even have an idea how Java's classpath works because they can only code using an IDE.

I agree, i started using just notepad

[zippy]

I agree, i started using just notepad

I have progressed from notepad to notepad++

I find those fancy ide's restrictive. Buts that me. If other developers prefer them, good for them.

The reality, though is that you will use whatever the company allows(licencing etc) or insists you use if it's an integral part of their source control systems.

[_kabal_]

IDE's restrictive, compared to notepad? I assume that is a joke.

it is impossible to efficiently manage and maintain "enterprise" level apps in notepad.

[D3x!]

I have progressed from notepad to notepad++

I find those fancy ide's restrictive. Buts that me. If other developers prefer them, good for them.

The reality, though is that you will use whatever the company allows(licencing etc) or insists you use if it's an integral part of their source control systems.

lol?

[zippy]

IDE's restrictive, compared to notepad? I assume that is a joke.

it is impossible to efficiently manage and maintain "enterprise" level apps in notepad.

I write all my SQL scripts using Notepad++ and write the Oracle Packages using PL/SQL Developer.

I use Oracle forms as well.

I use vi to write unix shell scripts and perl scripts.

I think our web team using visual studio.

I believe the choice of an IDE is actually made for most developers, not by them. You use whatever, the organisation has on site. Ofc, if the "site" is your home or your office, then obviously you made the choice, but on sites with large teams, the only choice is which text editor. I chose Notepad++, some of my colleagues use TextPad.

My boss only uses vi, even for Oracle packages. The only windows apps she has open is her email and some word and excel docs. It's the most frustrating experience going through code at her desk and no, she is not in her fifties, I doubt she is older than 35

I used to code java, but not anymore. I used JDeveloper. It was on the desktop . I did try Eclipse, but I spent more time configuring it than anything else, do I dumped it.