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    Quote Originally Posted by joelus View Post
    I read the article but unless you can point out what groups are involved I'm more inclined to treat your 'conspiracy theory' with scepticism.

    As far as I can tell there is plenty of evidence that fracking in the karoo would be bad for the environment and bad for the people living there - it hasn't been convincingly demonstrated that the economic benefit outweighs this in any way.

    I also see absolutely no evidence whatsoever that there are special interest groups / corporations behind the Treasure the Karoo Action Group, lobbying against fracking in the karoo and I can't see what motive any such corporations would have by doing so. I see concerned citizens and residents. And since you obviously don't know of any special interest groups / corporations lobbying against fracking in the karoo either, your 'scepticism' is misplaced - you are believing something with no evidence at all!

    I also see you avoid the difficult questions, like the millions of litres of water required for fracking in a desert and the millions of litres of waste product that results, while you focus on a conspiracy theory

    Sustainability is the future. Anything else is a waste of time.
    If we can generate billions of revenue, then polluting water sounds like a pretty small compromise

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    Since when is wind energy not dependable on renewable energy? It has a turbine, that thing requires lubrication, that uses oil.

    The exact same can be said about solar panels, it is made out of Metals, they are not infinite.

    My guess is that the people who promote these products have never really used them or have no idea what they are talking about. Even biological systems have a finite lifespan. Every metal or element in one way or another has a durability, even diamonds deteriorate.

    The most economical and environmental friendly method of power-generation currently is Nuclear power, but the greenies will k@k their pants full if we mention that. They are trying to have their bread buttered on both ends.
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    Nuclear power or GTFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Assimilator View Post
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    If we can generate billions of revenue, then polluting water sounds like a pretty small compromise
    Seriously ?

    Pollute the little water the Karoo has ?

    Then what ? - feed the sheep and locals with gas ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    Seriously ?

    Pollute the little water the Karoo has ?

    Then what ? - feed the sheep and locals with gas ?
    If the amount of money that is brought in is great enough, then buying our produce from elsewhere is an easy option.
    The positives and negatives need to be weighed up against each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrike View Post
    If we can generate billions of revenue, then polluting water sounds like a pretty small compromise
    //blinks
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    It's people like JStrike - people who can't see past profit - who will ruin this planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Assimilator View Post
    It's people like JStrike - people who can't see past profit - who will ruin this planet.
    Maybe. I agree with conservation, in part, except where the economic benefit is too big to ignore. In that case, people come first

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrike View Post
    Maybe. I agree with conservation, in part, except where the economic benefit is too big to ignore. In that case, people come first
    Only, not the people that actually lives there ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nod View Post
    Only, not the people that actually lives there ...
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrike View Post
    Maybe. I agree with conservation, in part, except where the economic benefit is too big to ignore. In that case, people come first
    The problem is that the only people who will see economic benefit are the oil giants and the ANC. The karoo farmers who will have to deal with poisoned groundwater for generations, will see nothing but hardship.
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    If the amount of money that is brought in is great enough, then buying our produce from elsewhere is an easy option.
    Buy produce - as in buy clean healthy water to come out the taps and to water the land ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrike View Post
    Maybe. I agree with conservation, in part, except where the economic benefit is too big to ignore. In that case, people come first
    I get the feeling that you are just trolling for a laugh? Please tell me I am right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nod View Post
    Only, not the people that actually lives there ...
    Yep. They need to adjust to the new reality. If it means millions of people get economic benefit, those few people that live there need to get into a new business or move their business elsewhere

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