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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Same goes for prophets...God doesn't use prophets anymore like in the old days up to the time before the Holy Spirit was given. Heb 1:1
    Modern day prophets are con artists
    I like how you say "the old days"

    How do you know "the old days" is no different from today?

    How could there have been magic in those days and not in these days?

    Did they harvest all the unicorn horns untilled they went extinct?

    How do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    More than one person have told me how they were tought by their pastors how to speak what we call "brabbel taal" ....random sounds. What is also strange is that every member of those congregations are "able" to do this....Holy Spirit gift??
    It's a miracle. God speaks through the congregation of some insignificant gathering in the middle of nowhere rather than show himself to the rest of the world and prove he really does exist.

    Hallelujah. I believe brother!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBug View Post
    I like how you say "the old days"

    How do you know "the old days" is no different from today?

    How could there have been magic in those days and not in these days?

    Did they harvest all the unicorn horns untilled they went extinct?

    How do you know?
    Because the bible does have some historical accuracy for example it says that holy spirit was poured out on first century christians and mentiins a certain roman emperor ruling at that time those are the old days.

    Regarding the question of today the bible also specifically says that there will be no more prophets and anyone claiming to be one would be lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spizz View Post
    It's a miracle. God speaks through the congregation of some insignificant gathering in the middle of nowhere rather than show himself to the rest of the world and prove he really does exist.

    Hallelujah. I believe brother!!!
    Remember.. mysterious ways.. strange obscure unseen mysterious ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spizz View Post
    It's a miracle. God speaks through the congregation of some insignificant gathering in the middle of nowhere rather than show himself to the rest of the world and prove he really does exist.

    Hallelujah. I believe brother!!!
    It is amazing though that you know about this insignificant little gathering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBug View Post
    Remember.. mysterious ways.. strange obscure unseen mysterious ways.
    Yep, I want to believe and there's no way I'll let anything get in my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    It is amazing though that you know about this insignificant little gathering.
    I don't. But I do know people. Those sad, grasping, insecure people looking for a teddy bear to squeeze through the insecure and uncertain times the rest of us know as life. Unable to open a book or reason beyond their teachings, thankfully there are many evangelists readily available to provide guidance for a fee.

    Hallelujah people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spizz View Post
    I don't. But I do know people. Those sad, grasping, insecure people looking for a teddy bear to squeeze through the insecure and uncertain times the rest of us know as life. Unable to open a book or reason beyond their teachings, thankfully there are many evangelists readily available to provide guidance for a fee.

    Hallelujah people...
    Congratulations , you win .

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    Fair enough . But

    Scientology is an obvious scam much like some cults that call themselves christian. Even in well established religious organisations there are individuals who are only there cause they were rejected some where else. These are people who abuse children when they are suppose to be role models.

    I am saying the obviousness of their sole purpose being enrichment of their founders like the churches in nigeria(reported by unreported world).

    I guees to people without any religious affiliation it becomes difficult to tease out which ones are scams.
    Doesn't really matter if you think it is a scam. In fact it doesn't really matter if it actually is a scam. Fact is it is still a dearly held belief of someone and you are mocking it. Something which you seem to think is unacceptable or inappropriate.

    Of course you can mock dearly held beliefs. If you think those beliefs are stupid or flawed on a logical level then you are free to voice that opinion. Nothing at all wrong with it. If we weren't allowed to speak negatively of dearly held beliefs the world would be a very strange place where people could claim whatever the fsck they wanted and nobody would ever be allowed to offer a counter point because that would be some sort of attack on dearly held beliefs.

    Are you honestly trying to tell me the freaks that bomb abortion clinics don't deserve to be treated like the misguided pieces of human refuse that they are? We should say nice things about what they did because after all it was a dearly held belief! Or is this just a case of "well you can mock other dearly held beliefs... just not mine"?

    What utter garbage,
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    I knew an evangelist (from Koevoet) who used to preach the gospel of Christ to the enemy(Swapo)...he would call for a ceasefire. I asked him once why he doesn't persist with any one person. He replied: "I'm not gonna lick anyone to choose Jesus Christ, there's so many others still out there"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    I'll go to any church provided that they preach my interpretation of the message of Christ.
    I stear clear from those preaching prosperity, speaking in tongues, faith healings and other practices I regard as sensation orientated and nott a truly miraculous event
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    Quote Originally Posted by porchrat View Post
    Doesn't really matter if you think it is a scam. In fact it doesn't really matter if it actually is a scam. Fact is it is still a dearly held belief of someone and you are mocking it.

    Of course you can mock dearly held beliefs. IF you think those beliefs are stupid or flawed on a logical level then you are free to voice that opinion. Nothing at all wrong with it.
    Porch I agree with you on most of that but let us not forget how harmful some cults are to the vulnerable.

    The reason I persist with how scientology is a scam is becauase I think it fall under the category of harmful cults and trully I would like to know how they are still in bussiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porchrat View Post
    FTFY
    not difficult to interpret the gospel of Christ. It's pretty straight forward for any moron to understand...even me. BTW, mine is the correct one
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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    Congratulations , you win .
    Yaayyyy. But I take no glory from it. Rather I feel sad that you lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spizz View Post
    Yaayyyy. But I take no glory from it. Rather I feel sad that you lose
    Interesting.

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