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    Page’s time in the military was spent as an Army Psychological Operations specialist, according to the Pentagon. The news raises questions over whether the military adequately screens the mental health of its soldiers, who are often equipped with powerful weapons and sent into conflict zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    Just another white supremacist.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1746542.html

    Page was the leader of a white supremacist band called End Apathy.

    Page said he had been part of the white power movement since 2000.
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    they (criminals ) are just trying to make a living .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
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    How do evaluate how someone will react to a war situation though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killadoob View Post
    How do evaluate how someone will react to a war situation though.
    You can't really but I would think they'd check if you were going into the Army Psychological Operations and it seems the leader of a right-wing group. The military must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
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    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-rev...ampaign=recirc

    A nonprofit that tracks white supremist groups has been watching Sikh Temple shooting suspect Wade Michael Page since 2000.
    Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) said they started tracking Page when he tried to purchase goods from the neo-Nazi group National Alliance, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

    This morning the SPLC resurfaced an April 2010 interview Page gave to alleged white supremacist website Label56 to discuss his band End Apathy.
    Here are some of the more revealing parts:
    The interview is in the article...

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    So much for watching the guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyvdh View Post
    So much for watching the guy!
    The issue though is they could be dealing with 50000 people like this so tracking the one that might go off could be extremely tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killadoob View Post
    The issue though is they could be dealing with 50000 people like this so tracking the one that might go off could be extremely tough.
    Not to mention the many foreign enemies the states have made in recent decades. The guy could have just had a mental breakdown or received some subliminal code word which triggered this. Again, I think it comes down to limiting the number and/or calibre of firearms someone can be licensed to own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Again, I think it comes down to limiting the number and/or calibre of firearms someone can be licensed to own.
    If people wanna kill they will find ways. Timothy McVeigh did not use any guns, killed close to 200 people and probably injured close to 1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    If people wanna kill they will find ways. Timothy McVeigh did not use any guns, killed close to 200 people and probably injured close to 1000.
    Yeah except when that happened, they tightened control and monitoring of people buying chemicals, they haven't with guns.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahom...ng#Legislation
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    Washington - A mosque burned to the ground in the midwestern US on Monday, in what worshippers suspect was a hate attack, less than a day after a deadly shooting at a Sikh temple.

    Firefighters and police were called to a blaze at the Islamic Centre in Joplin, Missouri - where about 125 members of the local Muslim community pray - at around 03:40 (08:40 GMT), according to the FBI's Kansas City office.

    "The building was completely destroyed," said Sharon Rhine, a spokesperson for the local Jasper County sheriff's office. No one was wounded in the incident.

    "No-one was apprehended. They don't want to call it a hate crime without information or knowledge of having someone to charge," Rhine said.

    Monday's blaze followed an attack on 4 July, when an unidentified suspect threw a petrol bomb onto the roof of the same mosque, causing minor damage.

    The mosque's surveillance cameras captured an image of the assailant's face, and the FBI offered a $15 000 reward for information related to the July incident, but no one has been apprehended.

    "It does seem coincidental that there was a fire a month ago and there was another one this month," Rhine said.

    FBI spokesperson Bridget Patton said both incidents occurred in the middle of the night, but said the FBI would "wait to determine the cause of the fire".

    "If it is determined that the attack was intentional, we will conduct and investigation to see if there is any correlation between this fire and that of [4] July," Patton added.

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    Local community members say this is one of a series of attacks on their mosque since it was founded in 2007.

    "Since the establishment of the mosque, we've been constantly under attack," said former mosque board member Navid Zaidi, 47. "Our sign has been burnt ... Our mailbox was smashed multiple times. We had bullets shot at our sign."

    Zaidi says the local community is lucky the attack occurred in the early morning, when no one was there.

    "During Ramadan is a time when more people attend the services. We are fortunate that no one was hurt today," he said, referring to the ongoing Muslim holy month of fasting and prayer.

    Zaidi complained that no suspects have been apprehended in the month since the 4 July attack.

    "I don't recall in my 27 years in the US, ever seeing perpetrators apprehended," he said.

    At an attack at a Sikh Temple on Sunday, a gunman shot and killed six people before he was shot by a police officer.

    "We hope these are isolated events, but suddenly they have become more regular and bolder," Zaidi said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Yeah except when that happened, they tightened control and monitoring of people buying chemicals, they haven't with guns.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahom...ng#Legislation
    How about who buys knives? Link

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamSync View Post
    How about who buys knives? Link
    Assuming he had quite a serious one, it looks like there is legislation in place:

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_8116966.htm

    If he got it illegally I'm pretty sure that's going to do his death penalty appeal any good.
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