How ANCYL plans to shut down Cape

[daveza]

Darn! you cape guys are going to get a day off

Maybe they will arrange it all for Thursday ...

[Fudzy]

That is threat of terrorism.....

Yes, that word is a better definition than treason.

[Mila]

Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

is to make war agains not seen as terrorism?

[gregmcc]

I'd like to see the feckers standing on the N1 - I'll drive them over!

[Mila]

deliberately calculated to strike terror into hesitant minds and impress upon the entire nation the determination of the governing clique to stifle all opposition

Terrorism or treason?

[Devill]

Yes, that word is a better definition than treason.

terrorism against ones own country = ??

No, not an ANCYL tea party.... it is called treason.

[Fudzy]

Googling Treason it's amazing how many Boeremag apologists are making the same comparisons to some in this thread.

[Fudzy]

terrorism against ones own country = ??

No, not an ANCYL tea party.... it is called treason.

You never heard of domestic terrorism?

[Mila]

Googling Treason it's amazing how many Boeremag apologists are making the same comparisons to some in this thread.

so that is your defence? You going to play that card?

[Fudzy]

The ANCYL certainly has a chip on it's shoulder when it comes to the DA & Zille in particular (given previous courtcases and such), they are protesting on behalf on taxi drivers and now they have mixed in service delivery issues. I doubt they will be trying to overthrow the DA's power in the WC, that would be a stupid thing to do.

[Fudzy]

so that is your defence? You going to play that card?

What card? Sorry I should have really made it an addendum to a previous post.

[Devill]

http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac....05-01-jpeg.pdf

And

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.230...21100964829063

Please read those.

Damhouder (Prac. Cri.n. Cap. 62) gives as examples of treason inter
alia the stirring up of sedition among the people and also the
rendering of assistance to the enemy by acts, arms or counsel.

[greg0205]

I'm with Mila and Devill here... If we were talking about the DA or IFP's youth league sending any of the ANC provincial governments memorandums stating they were going to make the province "ungovernable", an "intimidation" charge would only be there as an addendum to a treason charge. Of that, there is no doubt in my mind.

[Fudzy]

So province = nation then?

[daveza]

Sedition would be more correct -

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws.