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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    So province = nation then?
    Is the Western Cape not part of RSA? Seriously ....?

    According to Van Leeuwen (Cens. For. 5.2) treason can be committed
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    destroy the fatherland or collects the people against the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devill View Post
    Is the WC not part of RSA? Seriously ....?
    Fatherland? How old is that reference you made? It's an attack on a province at best, not a nation. As Daveza mentioned this is a better example of sedition. I doubt the ANCYL's end goal of this is overthrowing the government of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Fatherland? How old is that reference you made?
    Nice sidestep.... Is the Western Cape part of the RSA? Yes or No.

    If yes, then you are a wrong. If no you should ask for your school fees back.
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    I doubt the ANCYL's end goal of this is overthrowing the government of the country.
    The future government maybe....
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    So you recon Treason does not apply to the boeremag bunch since they would not have over thrown a nation.

    I mean we can all say with certainty that it would have been a beeeeggg flop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    So province = nation then?
    I wish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devill View Post
    Nice sidestep.... Is the Western Cape not part of the RSA? Yes or No.

    If yes, then you are a wrong. If no you should ask for your school fees back.
    Apologies, I elaborated. The WC is and should always be part of the RSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    So province = nation then?
    Nope, but sedition or treason aims to destabilise or overthrow government and, like it or not, the Western Cape's government is still a branch of National government. It's just that, IMO, a different set of rules apply to civil disobedience in the Wester Cape 'cos it's held by the DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mila View Post
    So you recon Treason does not apply to the boeremag bunch since they would not have over thrown a nation.

    I mean we can all say with certainty that it would have been a beeeeggg flop.
    Did you read the Boeremag's plans / goals? They were certainly planning on trying to overthrow the nation's government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Apologies, I elaborated. The WC is and should always be part of the RSA.
    Then if the ANCYL threaten with acts of terrorism against a province of the RSA is that not treason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg0205 View Post
    It's just that, IMO, a different set of rules apply to civil disobedience in the Wester Cape 'cos it's held by the DA.
    Rules by who, the DA or National Government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Did you read the Boeremag's plans / goals? They were certainly planning on trying to overthrow the nation's government.
    And the ANCYL not?

    The ANC Youth League in the province claims the league president, Julius Malema, is being made a scapegoat and that the league will make the country ungovernable should disciplinary action be taken against him.
    They have made the same threats.

    http://www.thenewage.co.za/mobi/Deta...340&CatID=1015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devill View Post
    Then if the ANCYL threaten with acts of terrorism against a province of the RSA is that not treason?
    Well if it is treason, then blocking off the freeways and burning down gantries should also be seen as treason. You could probably muggle whatever event you like with the word treason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Rules by who, the DA or National Government?
    ANC led National Government... Back to my first post, if this was a statement by the IFP's youth league in ANC led KZN, would that be seditious or treasonous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mila View Post
    And the ANCYL not?

    They have made the same threats.

    http://www.thenewage.co.za/mobi/Deta...340&CatID=1015
    And they got smacked over the hand for it. Your news story is not recent:

    http://www.thenewage.co.za/printstro...d=25340&mid=53
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