Don't come with your fanboy tendenciesOriginally Posted by Qwikslver
Don't come with your fanboy tendencies
I find this statement very unfair, if some one gives valid reasons why a certain product is better than another they should not be called fanboys, yes i do own a Intel, Why? Because I know it is better than AMD. Why do you think a product is more expensive than its competitor, because there is a reason its more expensive.
EDIT: If AMD and Intel were IDENTICALLY priced I would go for the Intel for various reasons.
Depends on your budget and needs. The FX-4100 is in the same price range as the i3 and both will perform similarly. The FX is a quad-core CPU but its not in the same performance bracket as an i5, for example. So your options are:
Low-end:
Intel core i3-2120 @ R1204
GIGABYTE B75M-D3H @ R838
TEAM Xtreem Dark DDR3-1600 4GB @ R251
or
AMD FX-4100 @ R1305
MSI 970A-G46 @ R935
TEAM Xtreem Dark DDR3-1600 4GB @ R251
The FX-4100 setup is a little more expensive depending on where you purchase your parts from, but can be overclocked. The Intel one, on the other hand, uses less power and has better long-term prospects thanks to a huge upgrade path and the possibility of upgrading to Ivy Bridge, as well as front-panel USB3.0 support and Intel's RST tech for SSDs.
My previous rig was just that, Phenom II 965 with 16GB RAM, it was pretty cheap and even with the onboard Radeon 4250 games were still playable. If you have sweet GFX like the 6870 then you will get a lot of performance from it.
You can do something for love, you can do something for money, but there is nothing as satisfying as doing something out of spite - Jeremy Clarkson, 1993
Ok before you go buy anything try this:
Remove GPU, disconnect all hard drives & optical drives, remove all pci cards, remove all ram. replace cmos battery with new one (they are dirt cheap), reset cmos via onboard jumper.
Clean dimm sockets with a paint brush, clean DIMM contacts with an eraser.
Now insert only 1 dimm and power up the pc, if no luck remove the dimm and try another one.
If this still does not help then it's a MB issue. The three beeps from you bios indicates ram error but it could also be a memory controller like you said.
Have you considered getting an el cheapo second hand g31 board maybe which can tie you over until you have save some more money for a decent system? Try carbonite or even the classified section here.
Last edited by ponder; 08-08-2012 at 07:10 PM.
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um no. Companies price at what the market will bear. So usually better marketing, means more loyalty, means you can price higher. Apple being a perfect example.
You don't actually need to be better to price higher. You just need to get everyone to think you're better.
The only problem with going AMD at the moment is stock levels. I am not aware of any suppliers that still have Phenom or other AM3 parts in stock.
You can do something for love, you can do something for money, but there is nothing as satisfying as doing something out of spite - Jeremy Clarkson, 1993
Rebeltech still has Phenom 965's in stock and Prophecy has the Athlon X3 in limited quantities. They are still out there id you know where to look, but at this stage its still better to go with Intel for the better performance and efficiency.
Good thing about them being in short supply is that you easily sell them 2nd hand for a good price
Sold mine, went green and got me an AMD E350 ITX setup for R750, best up/down grade I did in a long time and if you have decent case like the CoolerMaster Elite 120 then you can add a monster of a GFX card too.
You can do something for love, you can do something for money, but there is nothing as satisfying as doing something out of spite - Jeremy Clarkson, 1993
Well I have the SSD already so it makes sense that if I upgrade now to get a board that is SATA 3. A part of me is just starting to think I should just get an i5. One more try at hardware diagnostics and I think I will just bite the bullet.
+1 to ponder. Reports about memory changes and beeps indicate memory problems, not neccessary controller.
Apple is a exclusion, they just make every thing 400% more expensive. I'm comparing AMD and intel, you will never find a AMD with such great performance as Intel's 2nd generation I5 CPU. Apparently AMD's Bulldozer was a fail please correct me if I'm wrong.
No the AMD units do not compare that well with i5 or i7 but you still get a lot more bang for your buck if you look at the total cost of the setup.
WTF has apple got to do with anything.
+1 for that AMD setup, made a FX-6100 system for a friend and it blows away every game we tried. Cost less than my Intel Quad core system.
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