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Thread: Telkom calls for ICASA investigation into William Stucke

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwenzori View Post
    That report says it is a publicly available document. If so, wtf??? is Telkom on about?
    You think even telkom know??

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    How's that share price coming along Telkom?

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    “Furthermore, as a party directly affected, Telkom would be appalled by the breach, particularly if it was committed by an ICASA councillor, as alleged. Telkom is investigating the implications of possible damage that it may suffer from the alleged conduct relating to the leak of confidential internal information if found to be true,” Telkom stated.
    That reads as future tense as if Telkom has some insight into future events that have not yet come to pass, or maybe Telkom has been "frozen in time" at in the event horizon of a singularity and is only now waking up to the reality that it is missing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwenzori View Post
    That report says it is a publicly available document. If so, wtf??? is Telkom on about?
    Reading said document right now.Does it mean this for Telkom?


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    It is abundantly clear that there is an attempt to gun for Stucke and I really have to wonder (a) on what possible basis are state security agencies roped in (b) how could Stucke possible receive the classified information from the CCC on which he is not a member and which is a quasi-judicial body to which ICASA itself could be an applicant - if Stucke is a leak then somebody leaked it to him, or ICASA councillors are being given information which they shouldn't be given (c) why did the Business Day assemble the article as it did, the glaring errors are so patent that it smells like Telkom bought the story and that really isn't good for Business Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Hjul View Post
    It is abundantly clear that there is an attempt to gun for Stucke and I really have to wonder (a) on what possible basis are state security agencies roped in (b) how could Stucke possible receive the classified information from the CCC on which he is not a member and which is a quasi-judicial body to which ICASA itself could be an applicant - if Stucke is a leak then somebody leaked it to him, or ICASA councillors are being given information which they shouldn't be given (c) why did the Business Day assemble the article as it did, the glaring errors are so patent that it smells like Telkom bought the story and that really isn't good for Business Day.
    Bizarre indeed! Especially with Telkom naming Stucke. This can blow up badly in their faces.

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    Stucke is a real asset to ICASA and has the interests of South Africa at heart. I hope he is cleared of the Telkom accusation and lives to fight many more battles for us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entrepr View Post
    Stucke is a real asset to ICASA and has the interests of South Africa at heart. I hope he is cleared of the Telkom accusation and lives to fight many more battles for us all.
    AFAIK it is not a Telkom accusation but a Business Day one. The Telkom statement contains plentiful use of "alleged" ... Sadly they based it on the BD article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyD View Post
    AFAIK it is not a Telkom accusation but a Business Day one. The Telkom statement contains plentiful use of "alleged" ... Sadly they based it on the BD article.
    I completely missed that article, had to really search for it, heavy stuff, I hope Stucke is cleared, however BD makes it sound like a foregone conclusion.

    Icasa asked State Security Agency to probe leak BY THABISO MOCHIKO , 03 AUGUST 2012, 00:00
    The regulator received a letter from one of the companies recently, asking it to explain why the industry body had wind of the outcome before it was informed.

    All the councillors were asked who leaked the information, but none confessed, sources at Icasa said on Thursday. The State Security Agency was called in, and Mr Stucke then allegedly confessed.

    Mr Stucke said yesterday that he would not comment on the allegations.

    He has previously been in trouble at the regulator, after it was discovered in 2010 that he had not fulfilled a promise to sell his shares in a private internet company after he was appointed a councillor.

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    Does anyone have the url for the original Telkom media release? It's not on the Telkom media page for August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entrepr View Post
    Does anyone have the url for the original Telkom media release? It's not on the Telkom media page for August.
    From: http://www.techcentral.co.za/appalle...a-probe/34058/

    “As a member of the industry regulated by Icasa, Telkom is dismayed by a possible violation of due process which will unavoidably jeopardise the trust and confidence of the industry in the regulatory processes,” the operator says in the statement.

    “Furthermore, as a party directly affected, Telkom would be appalled by the breach, particularly if it was committed by an Icasa councillor, as alleged,” it says.

    “Telkom is investigating the implications of possible damage it may suffer from the alleged conduct relating to the leak of confidential internal information if found to be true.”

    Business Day newspaper reported on 3 August that Icasa had called in the State Security Agency to investigate claims that a councillor had leaked the information. The newspaper, which didn’t name a source for its information, said Stucke was alleged to have leaked the document. It said Stucke had allegedly confessed to the State Security Agency.

    Stucke could not immediately be reached on his mobile phone on Wednesday.

    In its statement, Telkom says it “expects that any person found responsible for such despicable conduct will be dealt with severely”.

    “Telkom is of the view than an in-depth investigation is imperative to restore a sound relationship between Icasa and the industry that will undoubtedly be compromised should the alleged conduct be proved.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by entrepr View Post
    Does anyone have the url for the original Telkom media release? It's not on the Telkom media page for August.
    Here it is:

    Telkom calls for ICASA investigation

    Telkom would like to state that the matter regarding the alleged leak of information from within ICASA, as reported in Business Day on 3 August 2012, is of grave concern to the Company.

    Reportedly, the findings and recommendations of the CCC to ICASA on the matter between Neotel and Telkom have been leaked by an ICASA councillor to an industry body. Councillor William Stucke, whose prior affiliation with a sector of the industry is well known, is alleged to be the source of the leak.

    As a member of the industry regulated by ICASA Telkom is dismayed by a possible violation of due process which will unavoidably jeopardise the trust and confidence of the industry in the regulatory processes.

    Furthermore, as a party directly affected, Telkom would be appalled by the breach, particularly if it was committed by an ICASA councillor, as alleged. Telkom is investigating the implications of possible damage that it may suffer from the alleged conduct relating to the leak of confidential internal information if found to be true.

    The Company expects that any person found responsible for such despicable conduct will be dealt with severely. Telkom is of the view that an in-depth investigation is imperative to restore a sound relationship between ICASA and the industry that will undoubtedly be compromised should the alleged conduct be proved.

    The Business Day article also mentioned that ICASA has asked the State Security Agency to investigate the leak. Telkom is in favour of such action and will closely follow any developments on this matter.

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    Thanks, Rudolph!
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