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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    But your picture was made by an atheist with the sole purpose of mocking so you are redundant friend . The author of the image beat you to it.

    If I made a picture as a theist and said it represented my belief then that would be a reflection of me .

    But the picture you posted is a reflection of your ignorance.
    Oh rite so in buyeyes world of fair game mocking , the author of the picture has to be from said religion. Post some pictures for me please so that the mocking can commence.

    Edit : Im going out to have a beer , i will mock when i get back

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    I believe there is no right or wrong path because we are on a spiritual journey; making mistakes and learning along the way. The choice in path is already made before we are born.

    My view is that God is both plural and singular. We are God as a collective, encompased by pure love, which is God. The purpose to life is to learn to help one another, and to forgive, thereby achieving unconditional love.

    Since childhood, I've never been comfortable with organised religion, and fortunately my parents understood. Catholic parents can be very understanding.

    At one stage back in the late 70's they had invited an JW elder to preach at our house. They were thinking of converting. After the second meeting, as the elder was walking towards the gate, our German Shepard bit his butt. Needless to say he never returned.
    I very much doubt any of you have ever heard of me before.

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    An extract from a Christian website.....better worded than I could.

    Comparing World Religions

    The first thing we should do is determine how the major religions of the world differ from each other, and to ascertain whether these differences are bridgeable. Christianity is based on the Triune God of the Bible - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and particularly the life of the Son, Jesus Christ. All other religions are based on the writings of men and not the life of any particular individual. Judaism, the sister religion to Christianity, is based on the Old Testament of the Bible, rejecting the entire New Testament and holding that the Messiah has not yet come. Islam is based on the writings of Muhammad, where they worship a single, impersonal god. Mormonism is based on the writings of Joseph Smith, where they deny the eternal divinity of Jesus, believe in many gods, and believe men can attain godhood (as their Jesus and Father did) and rule over their own planet. The Eastern religions, including Hinduism and Buddhism, and Western new-age religions such as Christian Science essentially believe everything is god (Pantheism - may the force be with you). These religions also teach reincarnation until the spirit reaches a level of "enlightenment" and oneness with god or the gods. Christianity teaches one death and one judgment (Hebrews 9:27).

    Christianity is also the only religion that recognizes the hopeless gap between man and a Holy and Righteous God, teaching that salvation can only be obtained through God's grace. All other religions teach that salvation can be achieved through human effort.

    I think at this point we should be able to agree that that the major world religions are quite different, with many conflicting and contradictory views. To hold that all religions are equally true is simply not a rational belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhappy438 View Post
    So i can make comments like that about your religion as long as its in picture form?

    http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/ite...e-universe.jpg

    Lol lol lol check this out ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    An extract from a Christian website.....better worded than I could.

    Comparing World Religions

    The first thing we should do is determine how the major religions of the world differ from each other, and to ascertain whether these differences are bridgeable. Christianity is based on the Triune God of the Bible - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and particularly the life of the Son, Jesus Christ. All other religions are based on the writings of men and not the life of any particular individual. Judaism, the sister religion to Christianity, is based on the Old Testament of the Bible, rejecting the entire New Testament and holding that the Messiah has not yet come. Islam is based on the writings of Muhammad, where they worship a single, impersonal god. Mormonism is based on the writings of Joseph Smith, where they deny the eternal divinity of Jesus, believe in many gods, and believe men can attain godhood (as their Jesus and Father did) and rule over their own planet. The Eastern religions, including Hinduism and Buddhism, and Western new-age religions such as Christian Science essentially believe everything is god (Pantheism - may the force be with you). These religions also teach reincarnation until the spirit reaches a level of "enlightenment" and oneness with god or the gods. Christianity teaches one death and one judgment (Hebrews 9:27).

    Christianity is also the only religion that recognizes the hopeless gap between man and a Holy and Righteous God, teaching that salvation can only be obtained through God's grace. All other religions teach that salvation can be achieved through human effort.

    I think at this point we should be able to agree that that the major world religions are quite different, with many conflicting and contradictory views. To hold that all religions are equally true is simply not a rational belief.
    All the underlined parts are wrong and not based on scripture just the other day I posted sciptures talking about a first and a second death.

    While your intentions were good you have highlighted mostly the false teachings that originate in pegan religions , please do note this, pegan religions are the polar opposite of christianity.

    So their infiltration of christianity means corruption which results in corruption of the message which is why people choose atheism as the message has become confused.
    I and the voice inside my head(vis a vis my conscience) both agree that Jehovas partenalistic rulership is better than Satans liberal anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    All the underlined parts are wrong and not based on scripture just the other day I posted sciptures talking about a first and a second death.

    While your intentions were good you have highlighted mostly the false teachings that originate in pegan religions , please do note this, pegan religions are the polar opposite of christianity.

    So their infiltration of christianity means corruption which results in corruption of the message which is why people choose atheism as the message has become confused.
    That's not why people choose atheism. I'd think it has more to do with common sense and critical thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwikslver View Post
    That's not why people choose atheism. I'd think it has more to do with common sense and critical thinking.
    Care to elaborate?
    I and the voice inside my head(vis a vis my conscience) both agree that Jehovas partenalistic rulership is better than Satans liberal anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    All the underlined parts are wrong and not based on scripture just the other day I posted sciptures talking about a first and a second death.

    While your intentions were good you have highlighted mostly the false teachings that originate in pegan religions , please do note this, pegan religions are the polar opposite of christianity.

    So their infiltration of christianity means corruption which results in corruption of the message which is why people choose atheism as the message has become confused.
    That certainly isn't why I chose atheism mate.

    I don't think it is wise to ever make blanket statements like that as though you understand the motivations of a very diverse group of individuals. In fact it makes you look like a bit of an arrogant person to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    It is extremely simple - The vast majority of atheists do not believe in god because there is no evidence for god. That's pretty much the beginning and end of it.

    You know this is true (that there is no evidence), which is why you folks (quite ludicrously) attempt to paint faith (belief without evidence) as a virtue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    All the underlined parts are wrong and not based on scripture just the other day I posted sciptures talking about a first and a second death.

    While your intentions were good you have highlighted mostly the false teachings that originate in pegan religions , please do note this, pegan religions are the polar opposite of christianity.

    So their infiltration of christianity means corruption which results in corruption of the message which is why people choose atheism as the message has become confused.
    Let me just explain...
    First death = bodily death
    Second death = eternal hell

    Salvation through God's grace is salvation through Jesus Christ. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Let me just explain...
    First death = bodily death
    Second death = eternal hell

    Salvation through God's grace is salvation through Jesus Christ. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Let me just explain...
    First death = bodily death
    Second death = eternal hell

    Salvation through God's grace is salvation through Jesus Christ. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me

    I was disagreeing with the no human effort part , you still have to learn your scripture and preach the message so that many can also be saved this is how you earn your salvation.

    Now to the underlined part both of us are not english but you should make up your mind about dying , how can dying be equal to living forever in hell. This makes no sense if you are good you live forever if you are bad you still live forever?
    I and the voice inside my head(vis a vis my conscience) both agree that Jehovas partenalistic rulership is better than Satans liberal anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
    It is extremely simple - The vast majority of atheists do not believe in god because there is no evidence for god. That's pretty much the beginning and end of it.

    You know this is true (that there is no evidence), which is why you folks (quite ludicrously) attempt to paint faith (belief without evidence) as a virtue.
    I agree with you that both sides have no physical evidence that can be produced at will.

    This is why noone can claim to know that God does not exist , they could only admit to not knowing as they do not have proof but that is not what most do .
    I and the voice inside my head(vis a vis my conscience) both agree that Jehovas partenalistic rulership is better than Satans liberal anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    I agree with you that both sides have no physical evidence that can be produced at will.
    As has been explained to you a thousand fscking times the majority of atheists (at least on this forum but in my experience this extends elsewhere... heck even Richard Dawkins holds this view) don't have to make any claims and so don't need any evidence.



    This is why noone can claim to know that God does not exist , they could only admit to not knowing as they do not have proof but that is not what most do .
    No most atheists (on this forum anyway) are happy to say they don't know. You will find very few so-called "strong atheists".

    Then agin this has also been explained to you a thousand times and you choose to ignore it. <sigh>
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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    I agree with you that both sides have no physical evidence that can be produced at will.

    This is why noone can claim to know that God does not exist , they could only admit to not knowing as they do not have proof but that is not what most do .
    The vast majority of atheists don't claim to know, that's the purview of the godly, generally.

    Most rational people understand they cannot make claims based on a lack of evidence....

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