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    Quote Originally Posted by ginggs View Post
    In its current state the bug is invalid and the developers' time is better spent working on bugs that are reproducible, or that have enough information to work on.

    It is not marked invalid permanently, as soon as someone can provide the requested information they can continue to work on it.
    I would mark it as pending then, not invalid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    I would mark it as pending then, not invalid...
    There is no 'pending' status, see:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginggs View Post
    There is no 'pending' status, see:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
    It should be used conservatively as bugs marked as Invalid no longer show up in default searches

    Be sure to triple-check a bug before you invalidate it
    erm...

    Sorry gingss, I'm being negative I know, but I'm sitting with the broken PC. I specifically waited for the point release before trying the upgrade, as this is what the Ubuntu boffs recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    erm...
    It should be used conservatively as bugs marked as Invalid no longer show up in default searches
    I'm just guessing, but this might be precisely why it was marked invalid; to stop people who didn't use update-manager or do-release-upgrade from finding it in the default searches.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    Sorry gingss, I'm being negative I know, but I'm sitting with the broken PC. I specifically waited for the point release before trying the upgrade, as this is what the Ubuntu boffs recommended.
    If you look in the bug now, you'll see the person who marked the bug invalid is still offering suggestions on how to fix your installation and how to send the informattion they are requesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    erm...

    Sorry gingss, I'm being negative I know, but I'm sitting with the broken PC. I specifically waited for the point release before trying the upgrade, as this is what the Ubuntu boffs recommended.
    http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop#services
    entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginggs View Post
    I'm just guessing, but this might be precisely why it was marked invalid; to stop people who didn't use update-manager or do-release-upgrade from finding it in the default searches.

    If you look in the bug now, you'll see the person who marked the bug invalid is still offering suggestions on how to fix your installation and how to send the informattion they are requesting.
    What the invalid has done is also stop email notification - means I don't have up to date info.

    The suggestion was apt-get -f install, which was the very first thing I tried after I got the your system is broken message. As I said, apt is broken, so I can't install anything. I'm sure even if I try to install by hand, I'm going to be blocked by apt

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    As I said, apt is broken, so I can't install anything. I'm sure even if I try to install by hand, I'm going to be blocked by apt
    Just an idea but how about updating apt manually by running the latest deb or installing it from source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    Just an idea but how about updating apt manually by running the latest deb or installing it from source?
    I don't think apt (the program) is broken, it's the database that has the broken dependencies in it, so it doesn't matter what I do, it keeps giving errors. dpkg also uses the database

    I am going to do a clean install which should fix that problem

    Thanks to you and ginggs for your interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    I am going to do a clean install which should fix that problem
    Unfortunately that's probably what everyone else did, that's why the bug has not been resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    I don't think apt (the program) is broken, it's the database that has the broken dependencies in it, so it doesn't matter what I do, it keeps giving errors. dpkg also uses the database
    I once recovered from a dependency issue in debian after using apt pinning to mix repos. I eventually got it working after removing about a third of the packages/apps one at time and checking which is the next one to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginggs View Post
    Unfortunately that's probably what everyone else did, that's why the bug has not been resolved.
    I'm going to try and get as much info for Stefano as I can, before I format. I just need to go through the logs, and also see if I can get apport working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    I once recovered from a dependency issue in debian after using apt pinning to mix repos. I eventually got it working after removing about a third of the packages/apps one at time and checking which is the next one to complain.
    You definitely have more patience than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl-sa View Post
    I'm going to try and get as much info for Stefano as I can, before I format. I just need to go through the logs, and also see if I can get apport working.
    Good luck.

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