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    iPhone and iPad LTE support in SA

    Vodacom, MTN, Cell C and 8ta will launch LTE this year, but that does not mean your iPad will be able to connect to these networks

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    Cell c it is then. Lots of ipads will be moving to cellc or maybe 8ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuintonB View Post
    iPhone and iPad LTE support in SA

    Vodacom, MTN, Cell C and 8ta will launch LTE this year, but that does not mean your iPad will be able to connect to these networks
    RPM, 8ta is 2300mhz TDD, device support is limited.

    Secondly, there are two major 2100 bands for LTE, Band 1 (IMT Standard- Cell C) Band 4 (AWS - AT&T) The Ipad will probably support Band 4 as the US LTE market is the largest at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveO View Post
    RPM, 8ta is 2300mhz TDD, device support is limited.
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    Long term forecasts do show takeup in the 2300 band globally by 2016, but primarily in Asia. There's very little chance of anything coming out of Europe or North America supporting the band soon.

    The question is: how did they get it? http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...=1#post9103638

    For now, the best bet is to go with devices like the iPhone 5 (and equivalent generation Android devices with similar chipsets). These have been designed to try to address the early LTE market, which certainly includes the 1800 band in a number of countries. Most of Radio Region 1 (Europe and Africa) will eventually have a lot of 800 / 2600 as these new networks are rolled out using auctioned or digital dividend spectrum.

    2100 MHz (the Region 1 version, which we use here) is heavily used for core UMTS/HSPA networks, and is unlikely to be a major LTE band for some time, since it requires extensive refarming for most operators. 1800 is much more likely, since it's refarming from 2G networks.

    Obviously, the next iPad will support at least the same bands as the iPhone 5, and perhaps the additional popular Region 1 bands.
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    So vodacom will not be selling ipads! As they are not going to support lte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beri View Post
    So vodacom will not be selling ipads! As they are not going to support lte
    Not supporting LTE doesn't mean 3G suddenly stops working, so I'm sure they'll continue selling iPads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efitol View Post
    Not supporting LTE doesn't mean 3G suddenly stops working, so I'm sure they'll continue selling iPads.
    I was told at the vodacom shop the they do not sell ipads.

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    Oh boy.. so we finally get LTE in the country only to find out there are like a thousand different frequencies it runs on?! They should've spent less time fighting over to call it 4G or not and more time and making it compatible with all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knersus View Post
    Oh boy.. so we finally get LTE in the country only to find out there are like a thousand different frequencies it runs on?! They should've spent less time fighting over to call it 4G or not and more time and making it compatible with all.
    When 800 and 2600 mhz is made available...then it will be compatible with all. But for now...the different networks have to make do with what they have and refarm where they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockie View Post
    When 800 and 2600 mhz is made available...then it will be compatible with all. But for now...the different networks have to make do with what they have and refarm where they can.
    Thanks.....so there is hope that my new ipad will gert the speed it was build for on the vodacom network

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beri View Post
    Thanks.....so there is hope that my new ipad will gert the speed it was build for on the vodacom network
    I do not think so. I can say for sure. Reason is not a lot of networks will be deploying LTE in the 2100 band. Think many will standardise on 800/1800/2600 band. I am not sure if our networks have plans for the 700mhz band? Will this be part of our digital dividend or only 800mhz?

    This is some of the bands that up and coming LTE phones will support as a example:

    Motorola HD:
    LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600

    Samsung S3 LTE
    LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockie View Post
    I do not think so. I can say for sure. Reason is not a lot of networks will be deploying LTE in the 2100 band. Think many will standardise on 800/1800/2600 band. I am not sure if our networks have plans for the 700mhz band? Will this be part of our digital dividend or only 800mhz?

    This is some of the bands that up and coming LTE phones will support as a example:

    Motorola HD:
    LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600

    Samsung S3 LTE
    LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
    So i need to go to cell c then.?
    Thanks for the info.

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    Solution would be to buy a mifi router. Then you'll be able to connect to networks X, Y and Z without worrying about iWhatever compatibility.

    The same would go for older products with 3G capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockie View Post
    When 800 and 2600 mhz is made available...then it will be compatible with all. But for now...the different networks have to make do with what they have and refarm where they can.
    So the networks really are rushing into this and could cause confusion (I mean, the common public is stupid enough to not understand LTE in not 4G according to networks). Our current 3G is just starting to mature and be better (but still over congested at places), I think LTE will also have a rough start

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltherza View Post
    So the networks really are rushing into this and could cause confusion (I mean, the common public is stupid enough to not understand LTE in not 4G according to networks). Our current 3G is just starting to mature and be better (but still over congested at places), I think LTE will also have a rough start
    Appart from the Ipad....The networks will only be releasing LTE devices on their respective networks that is compatible with their LTE network
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