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wvermaak86

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Hi Guys,

I'm currently working for one of the "Big 4" companies.

We have a quite a big and interesting project coming up, and this project would be too big for myself and a colleague to handle.

After a chat with management, we decided to outsource the development of the web-based application to a company who has the relevant resources.

Can you please supply me with a list of the top 10 asp.net web development companies in South Africa? I will then invite these companies to tender for the contract.

Please note, this will be a completely custom ASP.net project, thus we will not make use of any open-source or commercial CMS systems.

Our requirements for the web-based application will be the following:

1. Asp.net MVC 4.0 Framework
2. Microsoft Entity Framework for data binding
3. Microsoft SQL database
4. Sql Membership provider
5. May use Sql role provider, or a custom role provider
6. SQL Reporting services, preferably to be run on the server-side, otherwise on the client-side
7. SHA-2 or SHA-3 encryption of certain data tables in database.
8. Telerik's DevTools for .Net may be used - (I really like their controls) :)
9. May require a handful of web-services to be run.

Please provide me with the companies, suited for such a project, in South Africa.

Regards,

WVermaak86
 
Please note, this will be a completely custom ASP.net project, thus we will not make use of any open-source or commercial CMS systems.
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"Completely custom". What does that even mean. Honestly these types of lines would make me not want to do this. Reinventing the wheel is for fools, and fools with money to waste. Probably shouldn't use a commercial or open source database either, being completely custom

Those are some weird "requirements" too
 
Re-inventing CMS seems rather silly. There are reasons for custom development but a content management system is not normally one. You could probaly get a CMS that allows you to customise/extend iteself with the security concerns of having your data encoded with SHA.
 
_kabal_ said:
"Completely custom". What does that even mean. Honestly these types of lines would make me not want to do this. Reinventing the wheel is for fools, and fools with money to waste. Probably shouldn't use a commercial or open source database either, being completely custom

Those are some weird "requirements" too
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Kosmik said:
Re-inventing CMS seems rather silly. There are reasons for custom development but a content management system is not normally one. You could probaly get a CMS that allows you to customise/extend iteself with the security concerns of having your data encoded with SHA.
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Don't hire these dudes. They'll just try and force a round block into a square hole and can't see the trees for the forest.
 
AcidRaZor said:
Don't hire these dudes. They'll just try and force a round block into a square hole and can't see the trees for the forest.
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:D

Sounds like some pissy responses from guys who never had a chance...

/ducks
 
Hamster said:
:D

Sounds like some pissy responses from guys who never had a chance...

/ducks
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A chance at what? I'm quite happy to say that 100% of the time when I suggest/want custom development, it ends up working brilliantly and under budget with room for future growth.

The other times I was forced to use off-the-shelf (even open source) products, we came in over-budget and several years of development after trying to customize whatever they bought for them. That would have been cheaper/less time consuming for them and would leave them with several options to grow instead of, 5 years down the line, have to re-do everything because their needs changed too much. Which also meant that all the money they spent in development went down the drain.
 
Actually experiencing the exact same thing in my current company. They pay some guys for software, but their needs are wildly different to what the software can deliver, so they "custom" build it specific to the company (that already has a dev team) with an MS Access front-end (nightmare when it comes to validation). This is now 2 years on-going. If they just used their current resources and went from there, they could have saved a few hundred thousand rand already and have a working product that they wanted
 
AcidRaZor said:
A chance at what? I'm quite happy to say that 100% of the time when I suggest/want custom development, it ends up working brilliantly and under budget with room for future growth.

The other times I was forced to use off-the-shelf (even open source) products, we came in over-budget and several years of development after trying to customize whatever they bought for them. That would have been cheaper/less time consuming for them and would leave them with several options to grow instead of, 5 years down the line, have to re-do everything because their needs changed too much. Which also meant that all the money they spent in development went down the drain.
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A chance to get this project. Open source and existing products have their place and most of the time are sufficient. But sometimes they are just not powerful or flexible enough for a client's purposes.
 
jeremydixon said:
We used a CMS system to create this http://www.lucky247.com/

not much that cant be done with already available CMS systems out there.

So why reinvent the wheel?
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Any good CMS's like ExpressionEngine for .NET? And it will probably need to support some plugin system or have code available. Sounds like a very custom thing OP wants. They probably want to tie it into existing systems.
 
Hamster said:
A chance to get this project. Open source and existing products have their place and most of the time are sufficient. But sometimes they are just not powerful or flexible enough for a client's purposes.
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lol no ways am I "on the market" for any work. Also not one of the best, even if I don't mind sinking my teeth into a little more ASP.NET MVC
 
AcidRaZor said:
lol no ways am I "on the market" for any work. Also not one of the best, even if I don't mind sinking my teeth into a little more ASP.NET MVC
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Lol. I meant the two guys you quoted... die klaakouse :p
 
Yes, choosing the wrong existing solution proves using an existing solution is the wrong choice...

Dismissing something outright, that will take a lot of time away form actually coding "business" because of some weird pseudo requirement seems pretty foolish. Maybe a custom solution is required at the end of the day, but that comes from actual analysis, not "because"
 
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Hamster said:
Lol. I meant the two guys you quoted... die klaakouse :p
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Lol, no I'm not looking for work but we have been down the other end of the spectrum where a simple cms was required and custom was insisted. It all depends on the spec, and you have three options based on the complexity: off the shelf, customisation or custom development.
 
_kabal_ said:
Yes, choosing the wrong existing solution proves using an existing solution is the wrong choice...

Dismissing something outright, that will take a lot of time away form actually coding "business" because of some weird pseudo requirement seems pretty foolish. Maybe a custom solution is required at the end of the day, but that comes from actual analysis, not "because"
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Kosmik said:
Lol, no I'm not looking for work but we have been down the other end of the spectrum where a simple cms was required and custom was insisted. It all depends on the spec, and you have three options based on the complexity: off the shelf, customisation or custom development.
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This company spent over 6 million on a quoting product, that's still not working due to the customization required. If they invested the money in custom code, they would have had a working product with little to no bugs at all, flexible enough to cater for every need they have in future.

But "off the shelf" with a "few tweaks" just sounded better/less waste of time. Now if that 6 million got them the product and it was working within 6 months, then I'd understand. But it's been 3 years now. And there's STILL issues.

So yea, I'm kind of an advocate for custom over "off the shelf + customization" because each and EVERY time, it's proven to be cheaper, in time and money, to custom code from the ground up, than to customize a "one for all" open source product
 
AcidRaZor said:
This company spent over 6 million on a quoting product, that's still not working due to the customization required. If they invested the money in custom code, they would have had a working product with little to no bugs at all, flexible enough to cater for every need they have in future.

But "off the shelf" with a "few tweaks" just sounded better/less waste of time. Now if that 6 million got them the product and it was working within 6 months, then I'd understand. But it's been 3 years now. And there's STILL issues.

So yea, I'm kind of an advocate for custom over "off the shelf + customization" because each and EVERY time, it's proven to be cheaper, in time and money, to custom code from the ground up, than to customize a "one for all" open source product
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I have to say, after doing some Sharepoint development and customization, I lean towards this myself. Unless your problem is extremely straightforward, custom dev will usually work out cheaper and faster.
 
Ancalagon are you the same one from chillisgalore?
 
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