as i allready questioned it here:
God, The Logos and spirit....
The bible clearly says there is no other god than God himself, no worshiping of other entities or idols maybe be made from that is from heaven above.
Jesus himself never said that he is god, and nor could he if you take the above in consideration.
then next question(s) comes to mind - was Jesus divine or not, was he honored with a divine seat to God for what he has done ?
he maybe be the king of kings, lord of lords but not a god or god - the Holy spirit and Jesus may NOT be worshiped as it is in violation to the 10 commandments and god's word.
now who are those 2 then, as to my first post i ventured that they are aspects of God and not separate entities as most would believe.
which still makes the story Jesus tad bit strange then - word of God becoming flesh, dies and goes back... does he stay there or reintegrate with God (which would make more sense)
further pondering on this resulting in some searches for 'king of kings' and so on which led to these sites [where to topic text came from]
The Myth of the Holy Trinity(http://www.submission.org/christians...n_trinity.html)
The Christian Church teaches that there is one God. Paradoxically, it also teaches that God is three persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost- and that they are not mere manifestations of the deity. The Father is God, the Son is God, and so is the Holy Ghost. And they are co-eternal, co-equal, and co-existent.
Each, we are told, exists as an individual "person" but all three are "one God." As the familiar hymn puts it: "God in three persons; blessed Trinity.
But the concept will not bear examination. Matthew's Gospel tells us that before Mary of Nazareth became pregnant with the infant Jesus, the angel Gabriel appeared to the troubled Joseph - to whom she was betrothed - and told him not to be concerned, that "that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.'
But the logic here is difficult to follow: If Jesus of Nazareth was, as the Christian church asserts, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, he was "begotten" by a member of his own family, the Holy Ghost.
Moreover, the purported facts of Jesus' birth seem to indicate that the members of the Holy Trinity are not, as the Apostle's Creed states, co-equal and co-eternal. The Father, for instance, is unmistakably senior. He is the creator, the law-giver, and the prime mover, and the Son and the Holy Ghost are subject to him and do his bidding. It is he who directs the Holy Ghost to impregnate Mary - apparently with no reference to the Son - and he who has a voice from Heaven announce at Jesus baptism, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
In the Beginning God. Son of God or God the Son?, Unitarian Answers to Trinitarian Claims(http://www.submission.org/Balagh/Balagh02.html)
The very first words of the Bible are "In the beginning God." The first and central issue of the Bible is God. The beliefs and practices involved with this issue are therefore fundamental. It is no use going on to establish other beliefs and practices before this issue is settled. Fortunately the Bible is clear and consistent on this matter. The most important thing happens to be the thing expressed most clearly.
It is also true that there are in existence beliefs and practices relating to God which did not exist at the time when the Bible writers were writing. It must not surprise us then that these matters are not dealt with in the Bible at all. Throughout much of the Bible the issue is whether one must worship the God of the Bible uniquely, or whether it is permissible to worship other gods as well from time to time.
The Bible clearly states that the God of the Bible must be worshiped uniquely. No others may be worshiped. One of the main ways this is brought out is by the affirmation that God is one, or that there is only one God, the God of the Bible.
The text with the highest claim to authority in the Bible is the ten commandments. These are portrayed as being spoken by God Himself to a vast number of people, mostly descendants of Jacob, but including a vast internationally mixed multitude as well. The very first commandment is in Exodus 20:1-3: "And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
The import of these words is radical. The sentence does not imply a hierarchy with the God of the Bible as the head of a pantheon of lesser deities below Him. We are confronted with only one speaker, the God who says "I" and "me." His message is that He will not accept any relations whatsoever between human beings and other gods.
The second commandment in verses 4-6 shows what precisely is unacceptable and what is necessary. It is unacceptable to make an image of anything to bow down to or serve, because God is jealous, that is, He does not accept other gods before Him. What is necessary is to love God and to obey His commandments.
It has now been established on the basis of the most authoritative texts in the Bible that the true faith of the Bible requires us to acknowledge the one God of the Bible alone as God, to avoid making any kind of image, mental or otherwise, of any deity to be bowed down to or served, but to love God and do what He tells us to do.
There are plenty of supporting texts for these first basic principles. Some of them are listed below. Those which claim to be the words of God are marked with a star.
Myths & Message(http://www.submission.org/jesus.html)
Most people growing up in the West have a pretty definite idea of who Jesus Christ was and what he taught. Jesus of Nazareth was born of a virgin, grew up in Palestine and spent the later years of his rather short life teaching of the coming of the Kingdom of God. He began a new religion which was to become one of the driving forces in Western civilization. For those who worship him, he is the son of God, part of the Godhead, or God Himself. To millions of people, this is the truth. But is it?
Well, partially. Many of the major tenets of Christianity developed centuries after the death of Christ. Some of them are contrary to his actual teachings. We will examine some of these using the Bible itself as our main reference.
Then we will look at some revolutionary new developments in scriptural study. This new information is so comprehensive and conclusive that it offers us a new yardstick for evaluating and comparing traditional Christian understanding.
This is a big claim, and will necessarily be received with healthy skepticism, as any such claim should be. As detailed in Chapters 9 and 10, this evidence is an extremely intricate, computer decoded numerical structure which was discovered pervading ancient documents. The vastness and intricacy of this numerical structure is clearly super-human.
Jesus or the Church?(http://www.submission.org/Jesus22.html)
What is the definition of a Christian? Is he/she simply the one who goes to Church, or is he/she the one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ?
On the surface it might seem that the two types of people are one and the same, however, with a closer look at the Bible and also the history of Christianity it becomes evident that there could well be a marked difference between the two.
It is not uncommon to find many Christians who have never read the complete Bible even once, let alone the history of Christianity! If any time is given it is spent by going to Church once in a while and listening to the local Minister or Priest, but never really questioning or investigating the truth of what is being said. Various doctrines, that are taken for granted, are never looked into to verify whether they have in fact an origin in the Bible or not.
If we start by looking into Christianity as a religion, when was it established and by who we find startling facts. All the first believers and followers of Jesus were Jews. Jesus himself lived all his life as a Jew. All the first followers of Jesus, and for the first 200 years prayed in the Synagogues. The earliest known Church was not built until the year 232 A. D., two whole centuries after Jesus died. That is found at Dura-Euphrates #1 (The History of Christianity, a Lion handbook, page 76).
Up till the time Jesus died Christianity, as a religion independent from Judaism, did not exist. In his own words, Jesus asserted that he did not come to establish a new religion, but instead he had come as the fulfillment of the prophecies in the Jewish Scripture (Old Testament):