‘Bantustan Bills’ trample on the rights of rural people

Geoff.D

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Just shows the levels of lip service the ANC and most other black leaders pay to the concept of democracy. Let us hope the Bill is forced into the ConCourt where it will probably be found to be completely unconstitutional.
 
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BBSA

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Cyril will never sign a bill that trample on the rights of rural people.

/s
 

The Trutherizer

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What they want is independence. But yeah... Then we should by rights cut off their funding since they are so independent.
 

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Cyril will never sign a bill that trample on the rights of rural people.

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Of course he won't...never going to happen

Though in all honesty, I would be surprised if this isn't stuck on his desk because he doesn't want to sign it due to how monumentally fscked up it actually is, but he also doesn't want to send it back to Parliament to rework it due to the pushback it will cause.
 

thestaggy

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All a part of the ANC's wider patronage system. Its all about keeping the traditional leaders on their side so they ensure their subjects keep voting ANC. Let the traditional leaders have their little kingdoms and in turn the traditional leaders will support the ANC's empire.

Nothing new. Move along.
 

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They're probably doing this to avoid dealing with the Ingonyama Trust issue. The compromise has come back to bite them in the butts over 25 years later. I don't see how the bill is constitutional.
 

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Though in all honesty, I would be surprised if this isn't stuck on his desk because he doesn't want to sign it due to how monumentally fscked up it actually is, but he also doesn't want to send it back to Parliament to rework it due to the pushback it will cause.

Well he signed it...
 

ToxicBunny

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Well he signed it...

From reading an article or two around this, it looks like he may not have had much of a choice... i dunno though. I'm still generally just disgusted at this. It doesn't really impact me or have as big an impact as things like EWC for the general economy, but to actively deprive the vast majority of rural people of their land rights, and their access to the legal system (largely) is just sickening.
 

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From reading an article or two around this, it looks like he may not have had much of a choice... i dunno though. I'm still generally just disgusted at this. It doesn't really impact me or have as big an impact as things like EWC for the general economy, but to actively deprive the vast majority of rural people of their land rights, and their access to the legal system (largely) is just sickening.

The affected people will probably mark X in the ANC box come next election so maybe they are fine with it.
 

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The affected people will probably mark X in the ANC box come next election so maybe they are fine with it.

From what it looks like, part of the reasoning of this bill was to appease the traditional leaders who tell their flock how to vote.... and of course if the ANC are looking after them, they will keep instructing their flock to vote for the ANC....
 
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