‘Free Jacob Zuma’ protests take fiery turn as 25 trucks burnt in KZN

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OK, I have it now,


National Prosecuting Authority spokesperson Natasha Kara said the vehicle was preserved on the basis that it is an instrumentality of the offences.

the motor vehicle is in the literal sense deemed an a instrumental vehicle.

“It has an estimated market value of about R507,000. The car will remain with the state until the court grants a forfeiture order.”

It seems Moloi is unwilling to cooperate.
 

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‘We are coming close’: Cele confident police will solve insurrection case​


Police minister Bheki Cele is confident that, eventually, police will get to the bottom of the failed insurrection in KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng in July.

“We are not about to pass on it. We are coming close to [solving] it,” said Cele in an interview with TimesLIVE on Wednesday.

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On Wednesday, Cele said: “There are 18 people arrested, [their cases] are at different levels. I think some are charged with treason and others with incitement. Others are known, there are advocates and among those is the most popularly known as ‘Sphithiphithi’. Those investigations are continuing.

“There is one person who was specifically calling for the burning of three areas in KZN and they were all burnt, like he called. The police are investigating whether this was a coincidence or there were people who were organised to implement the call by this guy,” he said.

Cele applauded the police for foiling an attempt to stage a second wave of looting and destruction in August, saying the police “were better prepared.”

He said the alleged organisers had planned another wave of violence on August 23, when Zuma was scheduled to appear in the Pietermaritzburg high court, “but that did not happen”.

“They had promised that the August 23 one was going to be bigger and that what they did [before] was going to seem like a Sunday school picnic,” he said.

“The general public, instead of giving the honour and praise to the police, they give the honour to the planners to say that they did not do it. There were police there and the preparedness of the force was much higher and much better during that time.

“Because people do not want to honour the security forces, they think that that thing [the second phase of planned looting] did not happen naturally. They do not think that it did not happen because the police were better prepared,” he said.

:rolleyes: Cele is no Sherlock, and I am still in the opinion that it was not an insurrection.
 

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Inquiry into causes of July unrest and its aftermath amid policing lapses

An investigative hearing into the unrest and looting which swept across KwaZulu-Natal and parts of Gauteng between July 8 and 19 begins on Monday, led by a panel of commissioners from the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC).

The rioting and looting was characterised by the loss of life and targeting of retail centres, malls, shops and other businesses, schools and transport systems. Damage emerging from claims being dealt with by the state insurance company Sasria amount to R25bn

The SAHRC said: “The unrest has indeed deepened unemployment, poverty and rampant socio-economic inequality within SA. The unrest accordingly exacerbated, among other things, inequality between certain communities, unemployment levels, poverty, hunger and food insecurity.

More at: https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...nrest-and-its-aftermath-amid-policing-lapses/
 

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LISTEN | Family of teen killed during July unrest calls for justice at hearings

The aunt of slain 17-year-old Sibahle Nguse has called for justice after he was shot dead during the civil unrest which gripped parts of KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng in July.

On Monday, Zama Nguse was the first witness to provide oral evidence at the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) investigative hearing into the unrest and looting between July 8 and 19.

Nguse recalled how their informal settlement alongside Khan Road in Northdale, Pietermaritzburg, turned into a war zone on the morning of July 12 when her nephew was allegedly shot by armed community members.

Nguse, an unemployed mother of two children aged 12 and nine, said she had been living in the informal settlement since 2003, which is situated 5km from Brookside Mall that was looted and torched during the unrest.

She told the commission that on the morning of July 12 a number of vehicles with Howick registration plates (NR) were seen in the area.
Private security officers began firing teargas into our area after people began burning tyres on the road.”

More at: https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...ng-july-unrest-calls-for-justice-at-hearings/
 

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I get that there needs to be a "commission" to investigate this, but really seems like the SAHRC gets involved in a whole lot of things that are way outside of its remit really.

I'm also waiting for the "compensation" requests to start appearing out of this tbh.
 

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I get that there needs to be a "commission" to investigate this, but really seems like the SAHRC gets involved in a whole lot of things that are way outside of its remit really.

I'm also waiting for the "compensation" requests to start appearing out of this tbh.
Yip.. people causing destruction, then gets killed, and now they going to claim some ZAR. Sounds like Marikana... attacking police, then gets killed, wants ZAR. Rinse and repeat.
 

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Yip.. people causing destruction, then gets killed, and now they going to claim some ZAR. Sounds like Marikana... attacking police, then gets killed, wants ZAR. Rinse and repeat.

I do expect it from some groups yeah.

I want ZAR for the loss of sleep, stress and anxiety. I will even be generous and only claim it at 25% of my normal hourly rate.
 

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I get that there needs to be a "commission" to investigate this, but really seems like the SAHRC gets involved in a whole lot of things that are way outside of its remit really.
The SAHRC is only there to protect blacks against white racism, deflection is needed so white people can't point out how it was blacks rioting.

As for Cele, he's just a post turtle like Zuma, you'll get nothing of any value from him.
 

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The SAHRC is only there to protect blacks against white racism, deflection is needed so white people can't point out how it was blacks rioting.

As for Cele, he's just a post turtle like Zuma, you'll get nothing of any value from him.
Well I think in this divisive action by the SAHRC the Indians are getting tarred with the racist brush. Nissen et al don't appear too worried about the actual rioting etc. Racist escape goats must be found. Surprise, surprise.

 

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Well I think in this divisive action by the SAHRC the Indians are getting tarred with the racist brush. Nissen et al don't appear too worried about the actual rioting etc. Racist escape goats must be found. Surprise, surprise.

Yup.. Pretty much. Phoenix is going to get tarred and feathered as a escape goat to avoid dealing with the real problem.
 
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