‘We are expected to be OK with not having children’: how gay parenthood through surrogacy became a battleground

[Lucas Buck]

No, the gay's couple argument is that their colleagues, specifically straight and lesbian women, receive cover for surrogacy, IVF etc. Two lesbian women can't conceive together either.

Nobody receives cover for surrogacy, because surrogacy is illegal. Do they not know what a surrogate is?

 

[WizardOfAges]

Nobody receives cover for surrogacy, because surrogacy is illegal. Do they not know what a surrogate is?

Illegal where? You do realise this is in the USA right?

 

[Gyre]

They do but don't procreate naturally.

The gays dads in straight marriages disagree?

 

[WizardOfAges]

The gays dads in straight marriages disagree?

Ssh. Leave logic at the door.

 

[Gyre]

They do. But sperm + schit = Spermyschit, not a baby.

Lots of gay dads in the world, science shows their sperm still works. Maybe if the woman look enough like a man they can get away with it too

 

[Gyre]

Of course they do. What a silly question.

It was a silly question to your silly statement

 

[Lucas Buck]

Illegal where? You do realise this is in the USA right?

From the New York IVF insurance coverage website.

IS THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY COVERED BY THIS LAW?
Lesbians are covered, if diagnosed with infertility. However, surrogacy is currently illegal in New York, so single, gay men would not benefit from the new mandate. It’s unfortunate news that will require continued advocacy. Link

Even if it were legal I don't see how any insurance would want to cover someone not on ones medical insurance.

 

[WizardOfAges]

From the New York IVF insurance coverage website. Even if it were legal I don't see how any insurance would want to cover someone not on ones medical insurance.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

No, the gay's couple argument is that their colleagues, specifically straight and lesbian women, receive cover for surrogacy, IVF etc. Two lesbian women can't conceive together either.

A lesbian women carry her own baby.
A gay man can't

You cannot expect a surrogate to be covered under your policy.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Neither of these men are infertile. Insurance only covers that aspect.

Case closed.

PS: I love the women's rights advocates wringing their hands here so as not to offend the gays. What a conundrum....hehehe.

 

[WizardOfAges]

A lesbian women carry her own baby.
A gay man can't

I'm not denying reality. That is a fact.

You cannot expect a surrogate to be covered under your policy.

That's why they are trying to change that?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Ssh. Leave logic at the door.

A lesbian women carry her own baby.
A gay man can't

You cannot expect a surrogate to be covered under your policy.

Sssh...leave logic at the door.

Hahahaha...the irony.

 

[WizardOfAges]

PS: I love the women's rights advocates wringing their hands here so as not to offend the gays. What a conundrum....hehehe.

No, they do not. Some are openly hostile against gay people.

Stumbled upon this article on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwavewomen/comments/xt1onw

The comments there are surely something.

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

I was bleating the wrong tune, thanks for the link.

Sorted

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

No, they do not. Some are openly hostile against gay people.

Who? Where?

 

[Beyond.Celsus]

I'm not denying reality. That is a fact.

That's why they are trying to change that?

And everyone is rightly telling them to fark off with that idea

 

[WizardOfAges]

Sorted

What? They had to clarify.

 

[WizardOfAges]

Who? Where?

Read the darn reddit link.

 

[WizardOfAges]

Sssh...leave logic at the door.

Hahahaha...the irony.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Read the darn reddit link.

You're kidding right? You want me to wade through that swill?