1 provita = 1 sliced of bread

[bwana]

Cut out wheat totally, you'll feel so much better. Substitute with good protein - droë wors, biltong - for snacking on.

Life without wheat/bread? Boring.

 

[Nerfherder]

ProVita has a much lower GI then bread, so its better because it will sustain energy for longer.

The calories are meaningless when you consider the GI.

 

[Sinbad]

Life without wheat/bread? Boring.

Boring? I'd rather have biltong than toast
And you feel loads better for it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57505149/modern-wheat-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doctor-says/

 

[bwana]

Boring? I'd rather have biltong than toast
And you feel loads better for it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57505149/modern-wheat-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doctor-says/

That's nice. I'd rather have pasta, pizza, hamburgers, heroes, sandwiches, bagels, donuts, and biltong, washing it down with a nice beer, and enjoy my life.

 

[HippoMe]

Cut out wheat totally, you'll feel so much better. Substitute with good protein - droë wors, biltong - for snacking on.

Give me money and I will.

Fanatic Alert!

When I went wheat free I also thought my bills would go sky high, but they didn't. Reason. I eat less and feel better. Money that would have been spent on meds and doctors (there's always excess that comes out of your pocket after med. aid payments) went towards better, more nutritious foods which fill you up, and sustain you, far better than any wheat product.

After eating one R1 breadroll lethargy kicks in, productivity goes for a dive, frustration sets in and you go off looking for a quick pick-me-up fix which is usually more wheat-laden stuff, and so the vicious cycle begins.

R10s worth of droë wors is going to last a couple of days, if used for snack purposes, and you'll have more energy to do so much more, and you'll be happier too.

< Hops off soapbox >

 

[Sinbad]

That's nice. I'd rather have pasta, pizza, hamburgers, heroes, sandwiches, bagels, donuts, and biltong, washing it down with a nice beer, and enjoy my life.

Would be awesome, but if I did that I'd weigh even more than I do now

 

[upup]

I put thick peanut butter or sometimes marmite between the provitas.

 

[Swa]

Not everybody will feel better after cutting out wheat. It's only if you have a gluten sensitivity and there's a test for that so if you're not positive for anti gliadin antibodies the effect is placebo. A number of other factors, gmo frankenwheat is not the same as the traditional wheat. White bread will also cause a sugar high with the same symptoms as celiacs. The higher the GI the better you will feel.

 

[Seriously]

Fanatic Alert!

When I went wheat free I also thought my bills would go sky high, but they didn't. Reason. I eat less and feel better. Money that would have been spent on meds and doctors (there's always excess that comes out of your pocket after med. aid payments) went towards better, more nutritious foods which fill you up, and sustain you, far better than any wheat product.

After eating one R1 breadroll lethargy kicks in, productivity goes for a dive, frustration sets in and you go off looking for a quick pick-me-up fix which is usually more wheat-laden stuff, and so the vicious cycle begins.

R10s worth of droë wors is going to last a couple of days, if used for snack purposes, and you'll have more energy to do so much more, and you'll be happier too.

< Hops off soapbox >

OK! so share HOW do you or rather me and anyone else go wheat free?

 

[Kornhub]

Ryvita have 13g of carbs for two slices.

 

[porchrat]

Why? That's like saying miles are a stupid unit for distance, you should stick to km.
They're both equally valid.

No miles and kms are imperial and metric measurements. Calories are also part of the metric system and the reasons for not relying on it are not about your preference for one number system over another but rather their usage in language and the nature of the measurement. So your comparison falls flat.

Using the term "calorie" is stupid IMO for 2 reasons.

Firstly the term calorie is ambiguous. A lot of people and companies use the term to actually refer to a kilocalorie (a food calorie as opposed to a small calorie). So instead of measuring energy required to raise 1g of water by 1°C it is not the amount of energy required to raise 1kg of water 1°C. This leaves plenty of room to fool the unwary. The joule and kilojoule have no such confusion associated with them.

In addition the energy required to raise 1g of water by 1°C varies based upon pressure and the initial temperature of the water. Usually the pressure associated with a calorie is considered to be standard atmospheric pressure but these variations make it difficult to measure precisely and as a result there are many energy values attributed to the calorie. The joule, again, suffers from none of these problems.

 

[HippoMe]

OK! so share HOW do you or rather me and anyone else go wheat free?

For me, some of my reasons ----> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/reasons-to-go-glutenfree.html

How I did it, how I felt while going cold-turkey and how I felt after - briefly ...

I read this blog for days - http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/ and then downloaded the Wheat Belly book and read that.

I then decided on a Monday to see how I would feel after 5 days of NO consumption of ANY wheat product.

After 24 hours I:

- felt deprived, hungry
- had headaches, worse than the usual, constant headaches that I experienced
- got spots on my face, reminded me of my teenage years
- was incredibly thirsty all the time
- had every joint in my body aching
- felt kinda spaced out

Within 2 days:

- I no longer was thinking about food the whole time
- my headaches disappeared
- my skin cleared up
- my joint pain was gone
- my mind felt clearer than ever before

And the energy, wow!

I didn't bother with the 5-day 'diet', I just decided that this was how I wanted to feel and eat and just carried on not eating wheat. Walking past bakeries is still difficult and I still occasionally buy a lekker sticky chelsea bun, but I always suffer afterwards - painful gut, headache, etc.

In the beginning I overloaded on fruit and veg, raw and cooked, and ate way too many eggs and nuts, but after awhile I adapted and now eat 'normally'.

More?

 

[Swa]

That sounds remarkably like sugar withdrawal. Just cut out white bread stuff. It's not natural. Wheat is natural, especially the non frankenfood stuff.

 

[HippoMe]

That sounds remarkably like sugar withdrawal. Just cut out white bread stuff. It's not natural. Wheat is natural, especially the non frankenfood stuff.

Could be, but sugar doesn't make me bloat and wheat does.

I am trialling Eureka Mills Stoneground flour (natural wheat) and am finding that I bloat less (but still suffer) with this than ordinary 'frankenwheat', so it could very well be the poisons (pesticides, etc) used and the lousy method of growing and harvesting GM wheat that is causing my problems.

 

[upup]

For me, some of my reasons ----> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/reasons-to-go-glutenfree.html

How I did it, how I felt while going cold-turkey and how I felt after - briefly ...

I read this blog for days - http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/ and then downloaded the Wheat Belly book and read that.

I then decided on a Monday to see how I would feel after 5 days of NO consumption of ANY wheat product.

After 24 hours I:

- felt deprived, hungry
- had headaches, worse than the usual, constant headaches that I experienced
- got spots on my face, reminded me of my teenage years
- was incredibly thirsty all the time
- had every joint in my body aching
- felt kinda spaced out

Within 2 days:

- I no longer was thinking about food the whole time
- my headaches disappeared
- my skin cleared up
- my joint pain was gone
- my mind felt clearer than ever before

And the energy, wow!

I didn't bother with the 5-day 'diet', I just decided that this was how I wanted to feel and eat and just carried on not eating wheat. Walking past bakeries is still difficult and I still occasionally buy a lekker sticky chelsea bun, but I always suffer afterwards - painful gut, headache, etc.

In the beginning I overloaded on fruit and veg, raw and cooked, and ate way too many eggs and nuts, but after awhile I adapted and now eat 'normally'.

More?

where did you downloaded the book from;

"downloaded the Wheat Belly book "

 

[HippoMe]

where did you downloaded the book from;

"downloaded the Wheat Belly book "

Freebookspot I can send it to you if you would like, just PM me your email address.

 

[CrazYmonkeY159]

Using the term "calorie" is stupid IMO for 2 reasons.

Firstly the term calorie is ambiguous. A lot of people and companies use the term to actually refer to a kilocalorie (a food calorie as opposed to a small calorie). So instead of measuring energy required to raise 1g of water by 1°C it is not the amount of energy required to raise 1kg of water 1°C. This leaves plenty of room to fool the unwary. The joule and kilojoule have no such confusion associated with them.

In addition the energy required to raise 1g of water by 1°C varies based upon pressure and the initial temperature of the water. Usually the pressure associated with a calorie is considered to be standard atmospheric pressure but these variations make it difficult to measure precisely and as a result there are many energy values attributed to the calorie. The joule, again, suffers from none of these problems.

I agree with you wholeheartedly however the convention is 1 calorie = 1 calorie and 1 Calorie is 1 kilocalorie. So the capital 'C' denotes 1 kilocalorie. While this is the convention almost 50% of all websites completely ignore this rule.

I think that the Calorie is still used in nutritional data because calories is used mostly in thermochemical processes, our body is 1 giant thermochemical burning machine, since the mapping is obvious here I wont point it out as to why the Calorie is so widespread.

 

[porchrat]

I agree with you wholeheartedly however the convention is 1 calorie = 1 calorie and 1 Calorie is 1 kilocalorie. So the capital 'C' denotes 1 kilocalorie. While this is the convention almost 50% of all websites completely ignore this rule.

I think that the Calorie is still used in nutritional data because calories is used mostly in thermochemical processes, our body is 1 giant thermochemical burning machine, since the mapping is obvious here I wont point it out as to why the Calorie is so widespread.

Agreed. It is also used in chemistry for similar reasons, it is simply easier to calculate calories. Its use in chemistry is so widespread that in my experience most computer software aimed at chemists and biochemists uses calories as the default units of measurement.

It is unfortunate that the term has been so abused that I now feel it is unwise to use it. Still the nature of the measurement leaves it open to variability. Joules with their emphasis on things like Newtons and Ohms leave far less wriggle room.

 

[Swa]

It's easy. If it sounds too good to be true it's kilocalories.