10 ways you are unknowingly damaging your car

[SauRoNZA]

Well technically the higher the speed the more wear on everything.

But even so acceleration is the problem more so than speeding.

You can "speed" while doing 80 in a 40 after all.

But then there is also evidence for hard driven cars making more power than pussy footed ones and therefore working less for more.

Ultimately all paper value nonsense.

How about just learning to drive properly. Like clutching correctly and not braking into corners etc.

 

[catharsis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev_limiter



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline



I can do speeding without over-revving. There are cars on the market with which you can hit the governor without being close to the redline. I'm not talking about point 9,

Let's go back to your original post. You disagree that speeding has terrible consequences for a car but rather deduced that over- revving does???

So the engine of a car traveling at a constant speed of 160km/h (illegal speeding) for 12 hours will have exactly the same stress as a car driving at 80km/h for the same period as the speed has no effect on the engine???

 

[catharsis]

Well technically the higher the speed the more wear on everything.

But even so acceleration is the problem more so than speeding.

You can "speed" while doing 80 in a 40 after all.

But then there is also evidence for hard driven cars making more power than pussy footed ones and therefore working less for more.

Ultimately all paper value nonsense.

How about just learning to drive properly. Like clutching correctly and not braking into corners etc.

Agreed, but point 7 clearly states speeding in the context of driving really fast otherwise they would've said " breaking the speed limit."

 

[SauRoNZA]

Agreed, but point 7 clearly states speeding in the context of driving really fast otherwise they would've said " breaking the speed limit."

Oh I'm not defending the article, it's typical MyBB filler crap.

But just the inverted argument that speeding does nothing to the engine.

 

[catharsis]

Oh I'm not defending the article, it's typical MyBB filler crap.

But just the inverted argument that speeding does nothing to the engine.

You're saying speeding does nothing to the engine like that other mybb bloke that's gone missing?

 

[Gaz{M}]

Something that will screw up your car and clutch is using the clutch (on a manual car) to hold the vehicle stationary on a hill. I see it often. The poor clutch sits their burning away as the car judders in protest. Use the damn handbrake you philistine.

 

[Slootvreter]

Good think I've got uBlock Origin installed.

 

[spiff]

#7 is utter crap - about damaging the cars engine!

my Opel 1.8 Gsi T-car (gas flowed & ported head / 284 degrees Irmscher cam / cowley 4-1 pipe / balanced sub assembly / lowered suspension / degree cam pulley) was driven within inches of it's life for 14yrs and never had a problem with the engine. I eventually traded it in for a bmw which I still screw every day!

#8 - god that gets me!

 

[Sinbad]

#7 is utter crap - about damaging the cars engine!

my Opel 1.8 Gsi T-car (gas flowed & ported head / 284 degrees Irmscher cam / cowley 4-1 pipe / balanced sub assembly / lowered suspension / degree cam pulley) was driven within inches of it's life for 14yrs and never had a problem with the engine. I eventually traded it in for a bmw which I still screw every day!

#8 - god that gets me!

Yeah but they're talking about driving FAST...

 

[spiff]

Yeah but they're talking about driving FAST...

now you've ruined our friendship


my beloved Opel soon after I bought it.

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[SauRoNZA]

You're saying speeding does nothing to the engine like that other mybb bloke that's gone missing?

No it doesn't.

Because doing 120 in a 60 zone is speeding.

Doing 120 in a 120 isn't.

So by that definition driving your car is doing damage to it, which we all know is technically true as it's further and further away from being new, but it doesn't equate higher speeds doing any more damage than lower speeds.

Not to mention the stats that hard driven and run in vehicles last longer and make more power.

 

[freddster]

Exactly, who is this day and age drives a manual car ?

In SA lots do, becuase in this economy people go for the cheaper option. Overseas where you have working economies there are hardly any manual cars.

 

[supersunbird]

Exactly, who is this day and age drives a manual car ?

Me?

 

[catharsis]

No it doesn't.

Because doing 120 in a 60 zone is speeding.

Doing 120 in a 120 isn't.

So by that definition driving your car is doing damage to it, which we all know is technically true as it's further and further away from being new, but it doesn't equate higher speeds doing any more damage than lower speeds.

Not to mention the stats that hard driven and run in vehicles last longer and make more power.

The article specifically alludes to doing more than 120km/h in the maximum allowed speed limit, so the 120 in 60 is null and void.

Secondly, we often hear of guys right here on mybb, sceptical about purchasing high performance cars because they might have been driven hard and fast so the buyer needs to be wary of long term engine damage as a result of that.

So your point of hard driven cars lasting longer is utterly absurd.

:wtf:

 

[SauRoNZA]

The article specifically alludes to doing more than 120km/h in the maximum allowed speed limit, so the 120 in 60 is null and void.

Secondly, we often hear of guys right here on mybb, sceptical about purchasing high performance cars because they might have been driven hard and fast so the buyer needs to be wary of long term engine damage as a result of that.

So your point of hard driven cars lasting longer is utterly absurd.

:wtf:

You are basing that on the assumption that those people paranoid about hard driven cars are correct.

They aren't.

It's all about how they are driven hard.

But specifically there is statistical data that shows engines that are run in hard make more power and last longer than their conventionally run in counter parts.

It's the reason why performance vehicle get run-in at the factory and also why many serious petroleum heads run their engines in at the track.

 

[catharsis]

You are basing that on the assumption that those people paranoid about hard driven cars are correct.

They aren't.

It's all about how they are driven hard.

But specifically there is statistical data that shows engines that are run in hard make more power and last longer than their conventionally run in counter parts.

It's the reason why performance vehicle get run-in at the factory and also why many serious petroleum heads run their engines in at the track.

You keep talking about statistical data without providing a shred of evidence. Where is this data.

Its a well known fact that engines that are redone or reconditioned, are are run in on low revs and speeds.

Next time you purchase a brand new Subaru WRX STI send it over to me and I'll run in the living shyte out of it.

Should help perfectly with the engine life.

 

[SauRoNZA]

If I did ever buy one I would do just that.

But there is a great deal of.method to it. Not just about driving it flat out.

It's about warming it up properly and spanking it a certain way. Also must change oil and filters at 500km if you do.

Will find you the data when I'm not mobile.

Redone engines have the same run in as new ones.

Companies likes BMW now just have a software limiter in place for the first 1000km and a "rollong" red line until the bike is warm.

After your first service the bike is "unlocked".

It's about the way it's done to work for average Joe.

 

[azbob]

:my beloved Opel soon after I bought it.

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Is this...?? No, it can't be.

 

[SauRoNZA]

For a start....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break-in_(mechanical_run-in)

The other reason for shorter break-in regimens today is that a greater amount of science has been applied to the understanding of break-in, and this has led to the realization that some of the old, long, painstaking break-in regimens were based on specious reasoning[citation needed]. People developed elaborate theories on what was needed and why, and it was hard to sift the empirical evidence in trying to test or confirm the theories. Anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias definitely played at least some part. Today engineers can confidently advise users not to put too much stock in old theories of long, elaborate break-in regimens[citation needed]. Some users will not give credence to the engineers and will stick to their own ideas anyway; but their careful break-in beliefs are still harmless and serve roughly like a placebo in allowing them to assure themselves that they've maximized the equipment's working lifespan through their due diligence.

 

[SauRoNZA]

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

http://www.motorcycleextremist.com/Motorcycle-Engine-Break-in-the-Right-Way!.html

https://rideapart.com/articles/how-to-break-in-a-new-motorcycle-engine

And before you say this is for bikes only. The same logic is applied with high performance engines in cars.

In fact the really high performance stuff like the R8 for instance are run in like this in factory.

The run in when you buy one is for the tyres and brake components not the engine at all.