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Lisavr

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Good day

I am being accused of possible Fraud in the work place. Due to incorrect or personal use of the company credit card.

I would just like to know what the proceedings are or possibly will be

I never intentionally tried to use it for personal use and if that it is the case I'm more than happy to return the funds. I didn't intend to do harm to the company..i genuinely like my work

I'm just not sure what to do
I can't sleep
Can't Eat
Throwing up from stress

Is there anything I can do to save the situation
 

Hemi300c

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Good day

I am being accused of possible Fraud in the work place. Due to incorrect or personal use of the company credit card.

I would just like to know what the proceedings are or possibly will be

I never intentionally tried to use it for personal use and if that it is the case I'm more than happy to return the funds. I didn't intend to do harm to the company..i genuinely like my work

I'm just not sure what to do
I can't sleep
Can't Eat
Throwing up from stress

Is there anything I can do to save the situation
What are the circumstances?
Was the use of the CC fully explained to you before?
 

TribbleZA

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Good day

I am being accused of possible Fraud in the work place. Due to incorrect or personal use of the company credit card.

I would just like to know what the proceedings are or possibly will be

I never intentionally tried to use it for personal use and if that it is the case I'm more than happy to return the funds. I didn't intend to do harm to the company..i genuinely like my work

I'm just not sure what to do
I can't sleep
Can't Eat
Throwing up from stress

Is there anything I can do to save the situation
Set up a meeting to explain your side of things. Find out what exactly you did wrong. Most companies don't issue credit cards to employees, what was the purpose of you getting one ?
 

Kosmik

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They will need to provide you with a breakdown of what charges are being considered personal. Once you know which are in question, you can contest but a credit card is pretty straight forward, all transactions are tracked. Did you use it for something other than business and why? Its use is not really a grey area though so they probably have valid suspicions and if used for purposes other than company OR where the company would normally re-imburse you, it's fraud.
 

Lisavr

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What are the circumstances?
Was the use of the CC fully explained to you before?
The credit card was not fully explained, but we are not supposed to use it for personal use. It was either used for tollgates to get to work or Fuel if I really didn't have money. I am prepared to payback and take responsibility. I just want to know what will possibly happen
 

Lisavr

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Set up a meeting to explain your side of things. Find out what exactly you did wrong. Most companies don't issue credit cards to employees, what was the purpose of you getting one ?
The purpose to pay for Company expenses, I drive around a lot and it was a helpful tool to assist with payments. There is a hearing on Friday. I just want to know what to do
 

Lisavr

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They will need to provide you with a breakdown of what charges are being considered personal. Once you know which are in question, you can contest but a credit card is pretty straight forward, all transactions are tracked. Did you use it for something other than business and why? Its use is not really a grey area though so they probably have valid suspicions and if used for purposes other than company OR where the company would normally re-imburse you, it's fraud.
Hi , I get that what I did was not right and I made a big mistake, but yes it was usually to get to work or use it for the toll gates. I am prepared to payback everything. I just fear losing my job. I genuinely didn't mean to be deceitful, it was just a hard time for me where I couldn't even afford fuel.
 

Nemus

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Hi , I get that what I did was not right and I made a big mistake, but yes it was usually to get to work or use it for the toll gates. I am prepared to payback everything. I just fear losing my job. I genuinely didn't mean to be deceitful, it was just a hard time for me where I couldn't even afford fuel.

If you bought fuel for work purposes and this is allowed during hard times, then you have nothing to worry about.
If you bought fuel for personal use, or bought some other personal stuff, then they would have a good case.

Saying it was a hard time made you misuse the company credit card tells them that next time you're in a hard time and no longer have the card, you might misuse other company property.
And im saying all of this in the most diplomatic way i can muster....
 

clickingbuttons

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I frankly don't see what the issue is. If you had some personal expenses on your company credit card that they don't feel they should pay for, then they can just take the money from your salary.

If you tried to hide personal expenses as work expenses and got caught out doing so then that's shady behaviour, which is probably why you have a hearing.
 

mattrudlles

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I wouldn't say anything. Fraud is a very serious offence OP. Check if you have a union at your workplace, and definitely consult with a labour attorney. Ask for all correspondence in writing so everything is clear and recorded.

The repercussions would most likely be dismissal and claiming back the money. Check your companies process for handling misconduct.
 

Kosmik

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Fuel or tolls for work travel would normally be allowed, depending on your contract but either way, that is a good argument for use of a card and unless clearly defined otherwise, you shouldn't have an issue. BUT , I can also see the company requesting a travel log, depends entirely on how your package is structured.

Paying back the money is not the issue. That will happen regardless, its the breach in trust that needs to be identified and resolved between employee and employer. As others have said, document everything, consult with union/labour and take it from there.
 

Slamz

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I frankly don't see what the issue is. If you had some personal expenses on your company credit card that they don't feel they should pay for, then they can just take the money from your salary.

If you tried to hide personal expenses as work expenses and got caught out doing so then that's shady behaviour, which is probably why you have a hearing.



^^ this, if you were in any way seemed to have covered up the usage of the cc for your own personal use, it would border on theft and the company has every right to dismiss you(worse case scenario), as the trust between employer and employee has been broken.

if this is the case, i would strongly advise you get your mitigating responses sorted now, as you will have to strongly defend why you need your job, eg been with the company for x yrs, team player, top performer, etc.

i seem to interpret your posts as you being guilty of misconduct with the cc... you havent explained the full story but you leading to personal use without authorization, which is why i explained the above.
 

MirageF1

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A criminal record and possible jail time, worst case scenario( if the company decides to involve police and the police push for prosecution)

Financial fraud , irrespective the reason, is looked at in a v serious light
 

Hemi300c

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The purpose to pay for Company expenses, I drive around a lot and it was a helpful tool to assist with payments. There is a hearing on Friday. I just want to know what to do
Just be honest and man up and accept your guilt as it seems you knew it was for company expenses being tolls and petrol.

Unfortunately the penalty for fraud is harsh but the chairperson should take all circumstances into account.

Good luck and I hope it goes well and that you don't lose your job.
 

R13...

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If your work requires you to travel they should issue you a fuel card and etoll tag. The fuel card can be used for tolls where etolling isn't available. It's strange that it wasn't explained to you.
 
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