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[Totempole]

Hi , I get that what I did was not right and I made a big mistake, but yes it was usually to get to work or use it for the toll gates. I am prepared to payback everything. I just fear losing my job. I genuinely didn't mean to be deceitful, it was just a hard time for me where I couldn't even afford fuel.

It's that word in particular that worries me.

Otherwise, I don't see why they shouldn't just let you off with a warning, especially if you're prepared to reimburse them.

 

[Snyper564]

Careful. I work for a consulting company.
I can claim petrol to clients and back BUT never to work and home.

I think you may have an issue in the sense that you may not be able to claim the portion from home to work but only from work to clients. I mean then you could move across the company and drive in if that makes sense.

They should however have set out exactly what "WORK" expenses are.

Also how much are you talking about here?

 

[ArmatageShanks]

Careful. I work for a consulting company.
I can claim petrol to clients and back BUT never to work and home.

I think you may have an issue in the sense that you may not be able to claim the portion from home to work but only from work to clients. I mean then you could move across the company and drive in if that makes sense.

They should however have set out exactly what "WORK" expenses are.

Also how much are you talking about here?

Jip, can just sight a lack of an implemented process and training therefor.

 

[pinball wizard]

@OP

Sorry to say but you will really need assistance with this. You seem to struggle with answering questions unambiguously.

At some point I am going to have to consider you shady if you cannot state clearly a) how the card was intended to be used b) how it was misused.

Can't you read?

 

[Milano]

Can't you read?

Are you able to express yourself in a less juvenile way? Try asking your question again using an adult approach.

 

[Arthur]

it was just a hard time for me where I couldn't even afford fuel.

Be very careful what you say.

If I were hearing your case I'd take that as an aggravating factor, ie it makes your action worse. It is tantamount to admitting that you knew you were transgressing but that your personal need trumped your personal ethics. That is rather more serious than not being clear exactly what was allowed (which is simply a lack of information/communication and not an ethical problem per se). It's effectively an admission that you knowingly acted against your better judgment and were prepared to lie/cheat because you were in financial straights, and that raises more serious questions about your reliability when other tough ethical issues come up. Your need might be used in mitigation of sentence (if they are sympathetic), but it increases your guilt.

However, be honest, contrite, and resolved to act with scrupulous honesty with other people's money. Good luck with the hearing.

 

[pinball wizard]

Are you able to express yourself in a less juvenile way? Try asking your question again using an adult approach.

The OP stated repeatedly what the offence was and what the intende dus of the card was. Are you having difficulty reading what they wrote?



In other words, can't you read?

If you somehow take offence to what I asked, presumably you have deeper issues than a simple lack of reading and comprehending ability.

 

[Milano]

The OP stated repeatedly what the offence was and what the intende dus of the card was. Are you having difficulty reading what they wrote?

In other words, can't you read?

No trouble reading her posts, they are better written than yours.

If you could comprehend, you would understand I requested less ambiguity.

Your sentiments aside, it was clear that almost everyone without exception indicated there was a substantial lack of clarity in her posts.

If you would like to believe you are correct and everyone else was wrong, that is fine too

 

[Salmank]

Hi , I get that what I did was not right and I made a big mistake, but yes it was usually to get to work or use it for the toll gates. I am prepared to payback everything. I just fear losing my job. I genuinely didn't mean to be deceitful, it was just a hard time for me where I couldn't even afford fuel.

Why didnt you pay back BEFORE they got suspicious about you?

 

[R13...]

Why didnt you pay back BEFORE they got suspicious about you?

That wouldn't work. These company cards require that you account for every cent spent on them. If you misuse it you still have to lodge expense reports with of what those expenses were for.

 

[Splinter]

No trouble reading her posts,

'Her"? I saw nothing about a claimed gender? Anyway, this seems a whole lot of dubiousness to me. What person, other than an executive, gets issued a credit card from the business?

 

[Splinter]

Are you able to express yourself in a less juvenile way? Try asking your question again using an adult approach.

No trouble reading her posts, they are better written than yours.

If you could comprehend, you would understand I requested less ambiguity.

Your sentiments aside, it was clear that almost everyone without exception indicated there was a substantial lack of clarity in her posts.

If you would like to believe you are correct and everyone else was wrong, that is fine too

And I don't need to guess much as to who....

 

[RyanPCMR]

Zuma, is that you?

 

[Lisavr]

'Her"? I saw nothing about a claimed gender? Anyway, this seems a whole lot of dubiousness to me. What person, other than an executive, gets issued a credit card from the business?

Hi Reason for me not responding was that i hadn't returned to thread since yesterday morning a little after i posted the query.

We have crew members that travel frequently and we were all issued with a company credit card to make it better on a project or when on the roads.
I drive around a lot so i was issued one too.

I used the card for tollgates and fuel from home and work. I stated that it was for work.

That is all. I know that it is not allowed and when i was questioned on it i said that i would reimburse all the funds and i did.

But then i got issued with the hearing

I'm not saying I'm innocent
I made a judgement error based on bad situation i was going through and it clouded my moral standing and i chose to act without thinking

I feel terrible about it and if i could take it back I would
But i can't

I just want to know what i can do to possibly save my job.

 

[TribbleZA]

Hi Reason for me not responding was that i hadn't returned to thread since yesterday morning a little after i posted the query.

We have crew members that travel frequently and we were all issued with a company credit card to make it better on a project or when on the roads.
I drive around a lot so i was issued one too.

I used the card for tollgates and fuel from home and work. I stated that it was for work.

That is all. I know that it is not allowed and when i was questioned on it i said that i would reimburse all the funds and i did.

But then i got issued with the hearing

I'm not saying I'm innocent
I made a judgement error based on bad situation i was going through and it clouded my moral standing and i chose to act without thinking

I feel terrible about it and if i could take it back I would
But i can't

I just want to know what i can do to possibly save my job.

If you have already paid back everything you spent, they may just be making an example out of you and will probably take the card away. You need to find out if anything else was bought on the card as using credit cards in SA is risky and it may have been cloned. Who got the notifications as to what has been purchased ?

 

[John Tempus]

Hi Reason for me not responding was that i hadn't returned to thread since yesterday morning a little after i posted the query.

We have crew members that travel frequently and we were all issued with a company credit card to make it better on a project or when on the roads.
I drive around a lot so i was issued one too.

I used the card for tollgates and fuel from home and work. I stated that it was for work.

That is all. I know that it is not allowed and when i was questioned on it i said that i would reimburse all the funds and i did.

But then i got issued with the hearing

I'm not saying I'm innocent
I made a judgement error based on bad situation i was going through and it clouded my moral standing and i chose to act without thinking

I feel terrible about it and if i could take it back I would
But i can't

I just want to know what i can do to possibly save my job.

I think most of us find this incredibly impossible to believe. If your company want to charge you with using company card to pay for actual company related costs ie. tollgates/fuel to and from work then I think they quite literally just making this into a situation because they are looking for a way to downsize or specifically fire you. This is their easy solution.

In what world would an company issued creditcard used for company travel fuel/tollgates be unreasonable ? Are you saying that you used the card for fuel/tollgate related costs that does not relate to you driving from home to work and back ?

ie. Did you use it for personal fuel/tollgates unrelated to traveling to work or for work ? If that is the case then yes you quite literally used company funds for personal use and it wouldn't matter if you paid them back because this shows lack of judgment on your part and depending on the size and legitimacy of the company they would like to get rid of bad actors as quickly as possible. It is not worth giving second chances for thieves, that is basically how I would see it if I were HR of that company.

 

[Kosmik]

I think most of us find this incredibly impossible to believe. If your company want to charge you with using company card to pay for actual company related costs ie. tollgates/fuel to and from work then I think they quite literally just making this into a situation because they are looking for a way to downsize or specifically fire you. This is their easy solution.

In what world would an company issued creditcard used for company travel fuel/tollgates be unreasonable ? Are you saying that you used the card for fuel/tollgate related costs that does not relate to you driving from home to work and back ?

ie. Did you use it for personal fuel/tollgates unrelated to traveling to work or for work ? If that is the case then yes you quite literally used company funds for personal use and it wouldn't matter if you paid them back because this shows lack of judgment on your part and depending on the size and legitimacy of the company they would like to get rid of bad actors as quickly as possible. It is not worth giving second chances for thieves, that is basically how I would see it if I were HR of that company.

Depends on the role of the card. If it was meant to cover expenses outside of the daily norm and was used to cover what they deem as normal, they have a point. Was it meant to be used for fuel, tolls, or for other purposes. Difficult to tell without the cards scope being known.

 

[John Tempus]

Depends on the role of the card. If it was meant to cover expenses outside of the daily norm and was used to cover what they deem as normal, they have a point. Was it meant to be used for fuel, tolls, or for other purposes. Difficult to tell without the cards scope being known.

I guess I am quite confused that if this issue could land him/her to lose his/her job why not consult an actual employment lawyer of sorts.

To me it sounds like a make or break for a job , this forum cannot solve the problem. This person needs to consult actual experts in this field, explain the full story and get actual legal advice if there is gray areas that could be skirted.

 

[JC Heat]

If you used the credit card under the "hopes of them not noticing" and chose not to disclose it, this is deceitful behavior and in essence "theft". I understand that you intend to repay the costs incurred, however, you will most likely loose your job. Understand, from their side that, this was a massive breach of trust. Had you been in a REALLY bad financial situation, it would have been more advisable to go to your boss and explain your predicament. Most people do have a heart and they probably would have extended a helping hand to you. Learn from this and rather just be upfront and honest in the future.

 

[Nemus]

@Lisavr How did the hearing go?