12 things you need to know about SA’s new drone laws

Kosmik

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Hmmm, not sure, sounds a bit over regulated but the main rider seems to be the fact of "real time control".
 

The_Unbeliever

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:confused:

"11. Drones cannot tow another aircraft..."

WTF???? :wtf:


TBH it seems somebody's kitty is dry, and needs lubrication a.k.a money....
 

frankvw

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Morons...

Once again this illustrates the terminal ineptitude with which this country is currently being governed.

The minister, in her infinite wisdom, is obviously oblivious of the fact that there currently is no good definition of what is and is not a "drone". Is an RC (radio/remote controlled) model airplaine a drone? No. Is an RC model helicopter a drone? No. Is an RC model helicopter with a camera in it a drone? No. So when does a regular RC model aircraft become a drone?

Absent a proper definition, the systems currently popularly known as "drones" are in fact RC model aircraft.

Which means that this legislation affects all RC model aircraft. Bye bye model aviation hobbyists.

This is what happens when morons are put in charge of legislation.

// FvW
 

CuppaJoe

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Any vehicle capable of autonomous navigation and operation can be classified as a drone.

We are in the transition phase where not long from now all RC aircraft will have some form of autonomous operation, which makes them drones. It's analogue to TV going from black and white to colour.
 
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frankvw

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Thing is, consumer-level drones are not capable of autonomous navigation and operation. Automatic stabilization and a homing feature to return to its point of origin are pretty much it. I mean, we're not exactly talking self-aware cybernetic weapons platforms here, are we?

// FvW
 

AstroTurf

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Thing is, consumer-level drones are not capable of autonomous navigation and operation. Automatic stabilization and a homing feature to return to its point of origin are pretty much it. I mean, we're not exactly talking self-aware cybernetic weapons platforms here, are we?

// FvW
soon
 

CuppaJoe

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Thing is, consumer-level drones are not capable of autonomous navigation and operation. Automatic stabilization and a homing feature to return to its point of origin are pretty much it. I mean, we're not exactly talking self-aware cybernetic weapons platforms here, are we?

// FvW
I get what you are saying, but you must remember the tech is evolving very quickly now and it's not going to be very long before even the cheap toys can do this.

Most of DJI's products can be classified as 'consumer-level', except maybe the S1000, and they can operate autonomously following preset waypoints.
 
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Thing is, consumer-level drones are not capable of autonomous navigation and operation. Automatic stabilization and a homing feature to return to its point of origin are pretty much it. I mean, we're not exactly talking self-aware cybernetic weapons platforms here, are we?

// FvW
The fact that your hobby drone can return home by itself makes it autonomous.

Judging by those regulations, they have turned drones into proper aircraft with much the same limitations.
 
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garyc

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Which means that this legislation affects all RC model aircraft. Bye bye model aviation hobbyists.
This legislation does not affect the drones used by most people for recreational purposes. Those remain defined as model aircraft and will continue to be operated under the same legislation as has always applied to them. The new legislation applies to those used for aerial work as defined by the Government Gazette:

“aerial work” means an aircraft operation in which an aircraft is used for specialised services as determined by the Director such as—

(a) agricultural spraying, seeding and dusting;
(b) cloud spraying, seeding and dusting;
(c) culling;
(d) construction;
(e) aerial harvesting;
(f) aerial patrol, observation and survey;
(g) aerial advertisement, including banner towing and other towing of objects;
(h) search and rescue;
(i) parachuting;
(j) aerial recording by photographic or electronic means;
(k) fire spotting, control and fighting; and
(l) spraying, seeding or dusting other than for agricultural purposes and clouds;
 

kang

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One cannot have a misspelt or omitted word when coming up with a set of rules.

"5.The rules do (not?) apply to toy aircraft or unmanned free balloons or other types of aircraft which cannot be managed on a real-time basis during flight."
 

Armgame

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SO if I understand this correctly, you can still get a drone from like a shop and fly it around, or do you need a licence for those as well. This is not very clear. They need to start putting stickers on everything now...
 
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