[18/10/2019] Load-shedding escalated to Stage 2

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SlinkyMike said:
I like how you chop off the entire paragraph of my post where I say that Eskom is being run poorly by a bunch of cnuts then ask me if I think it's hunky dory. I mean is this the freaking Twilight zone or something? JFC.
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Don't try to be clever.

I quoted your whole post.

Here is what happened... you edited your post after I quoted it
 
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If you think that loadshedding is proof that black people can't run power stations then frankly I don't know what to say. That isn't what facts are.
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Whites running Eskom - Eskom good

Whites not running Eskom - Eskom broken.

Please debate.
 
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Jopie Fourie said:
They are simply not capable of running Eskom. The white people with the experience, skills and knowledge was chased away in the name of Affirmative Action and BEE, and left the country. The unions and government does not want them back. This is the reality and nothing sugar-coated. Suffer people! Suffer!
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Jip, Efricans dude.....Efricans

But stealing, nothing stops them from stealing.

Sitting at SASSA and having a grade 3 maths idiot telling how things work is one of the worst.
 
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Guys, for the sake of sanity and the risk of this turning into a racist debate, let's not go into whites vs blacks in terms of capacity to do work. There's more to it than skin colour. Yes, the experienced whites left. That doesn't mean the blacks left over are stupid or idiots. They're not experienced, and they also got dealt a strange hand. Yes, they could have handled it better, but plenty of them got their jobs just to keep BEE quotas. It's good for the worker, because he gets his salary, but it sucks for Eskom, because here we are.

Careful the soil you tread here. It's a slippery and dangerous slope.
 
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Toxxyc said:
Guys, for the sake of sanity and the risk of this turning into a racist debate...

Yes, the experienced whites left....

They're not experienced, and they also got dealt a strange hand...

...but plenty of them got their jobs just to keep BEE quotas....
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Once this is addressed, then the country will know whether it will end up back in the neanderthal era or whether it will move forward. Until then, there are no other solution to Eskom's problem. Keeping these facts under the carpet will just keep ensuring billions of Rands are lost to something that will eventually collapse and everyone employed there will end up unemployed with no future.
 
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daveza said:
Small correction -


The experienced whites were forced out, to be replaced by inexperienced not whites
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You can change that to "the experienced people were forced out, to be replaced by inexperienced people" and the problem would be the same. We should stop putting race in things that have no relevance.
 
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Toxxyc said:
You can change that to "the experienced people were forced out, to be replaced by inexperienced people" and the problem would be the same. We should stop putting race in things that have no relevance.
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Utter BS. Race was of supreme relevance when it was decided which experienced people should be forced out. This is undeniably a racial issue.
 
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SlinkyMike said:
Unabashedly racist bullschit. Jesus.

Do you have any evidence that black people cannot operate a power grid? Do only white people work at the electricity utilities in California?

BTW: I'm not saying Eskom is a well run business supplying a uninterrupted power to the nation. I'm saying they are a bunch of cnuts, of all colours.
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The only one mentioning black people are you..... can you point out the racism in his post, please?
 
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SlinkyMike said:
Which is why I point out that California is also in an electricity crisis. If they have similar issues and none of these incapable black folks then somehow the logic isn't working, i.e.: this is racist af.
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Yes, and the history of both area's are not the same, and the way that these problems occurred are not the same, the cultures are not the same. Take more facts from our past and put it in the mix you might find different results.
The only reason race becomes part of the issue is because the government decided to implement racist policies... I cant be blamed for that, they forced it into the discussion, and plays a major role in the result. So the racism sits with the ANC not me.
I'm just pointing at the flaw in their racism :)
 
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garp said:
Utter BS. Race was of supreme relevance when it was decided which experienced people should be forced out. This is undeniably a racial issue.
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Of course. Doesn't mean that white/black people working or who have worked at Eskom are racist though. You're missing the point.

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it was because of their race that they were forced out, so how is it not relevant?
BEE is the racist.
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I agree - BEE is the racist. That's the point, but also not the point of the current discussion.
 
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The heart of the matter is that SlinkyMike is defending racism and the draconian BEE laws, while trying to underplay the state of Eskom pre-ANC.
 
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