[18/10/2019] Load-shedding escalated to Stage 2

[SlowInternet]

Our electricity was suppose to be off from 18H00-20H30 but luckily came back on at 19H30

 

[Sinbad]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1185242897073016832

 

[cavedog]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1185242897073016832

That is not true. They used R5 billion in the whole financial year last year how can they have burned so much in just a few days. Stupid DA mentality.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

Stupid DA mentality but headline says Eskom confirms said amount ........

 

[daveza]

Stupid DA mentality but headline says Eskom confirms said amount ........

Confused me as well.

 

[supersunbird]

That is not true. They used R5 billion in the whole financial year last year how can they have burned so much in just a few days. Stupid DA mentality.

Stupid TV headline writer. Stupid cavedog for blaming DA.

The truth:

WATCH: Eskom burns R6 billion diesel as it struggles with load shedding

Power utility warned SA to brace for more load shedding as it grapples with repairs to boiler tube leaks at its coal-fired power stations.

www.iol.co.za

Mabuza said that for the year to March 2019, Eskom had burnt R6 billion worth of diesel as it struggled with high stages of load shedding.

 

[Moto Guzzi]

AC Power=The backbone supporting a load of stuff necessary for every day use. AC Power gone, eventually your life go silent.

ESKOM=Managed by the state, keep AC power costs low.
>Needs a firm hand from the Board, CEO right down through management.
>Needs good skills required for the job, you cant talk these stuff right, you have to do it right.
>>Risk=The risk here is in management & skills.
>Maintanace-The understanding of it.
>Spares-The understanding of it, when you might need it.

Versus

ESKOM=Privatised, the promise of compitition is alive and going, lots of talk.
>Needs a firm hand from the Board, CEO right down through management.
>Needs good skills required for the job, you cant talk these stuff right, you have to do it right.
>Maintanace-The understanding of it. This is going to be problematicand cut thin.
>Spares-The understanding of it, when you might need it. This is going to be problematic and cut thin.
>>Risk=The risk here is in management & skills. The claim is that its going to be better, but not proven.
>>Additional Risk=Long term costs. Costs maybe initially cheap on a promise, but as reality sets in, it could rise substancially due to profit and channelings.

STATE versus Priviatisation
As can be seen from other countries, privatisation did not any good in the long run either.
-Both can be politically influenced.
-Privatisations go where the money is, so country towns will have problems.
-A country has its citizens, where the management and workers are drawn from, so why on earth would privatisation of this major backbone be better than state controlled from the same base-?

Centralization of the AC Power stations, was thought about since electricity was discovered and made usable.
Centralisation means costly core operations can be financed in a more controlled fashion and long term.
If this is broken up by Privatization into pieces, it will carry a costly medicore type of a service in the long run, exceprtions excluded. To turn back on original centralization basis will at that stage be hardly possible, meaning a whole new system be build all over.
Do not confuse Technical centralisations with Managerial centralisations.
Technical core centralisations with Managerial de-centralizations can be a good thing, those performing better in certain regions can be followed rather than numbed down to whatever the average is if management is centralised.

The AC backbone is not something to mess with, time will teach you a lesson the hard way if wrong quick opertunistic choices are made here. Let the state handle the backbones, and let the supply of EQPT be private and the private sector play in the fields and make their "profits". If the state is good, everything will have a stable base, from electricity, communications, transport etc, the country wiil be ridgid with slow predictable cycles , as appose to
rapid changing temperamental cycles chasing everybody's heart rate sky high daily due to persistent uncertainties.

When comes to backbone services, thats where top management must pull out a mirror and look into it.

 

[wingnut771]

AC Power=The backbone supporting a load of stuff necessary for every day use.

ESKOM=Managed by the state, keep AC power costs low.
>Needs a firm hand from the Board, CEO right down through management.
>Needs good skills required for the job, you cant talk these stuff right, you have to do it right.
>>Risk=The risk here is in management & skills.
>Maintanace-The understanding of it.
>Spares-The understanding of it, when you might need it.

Versus

ESKOM=Privatised, the promise of compitition is alive and going, lots of talk.
>Needs a firm hand from the Board, CEO right down through management.
>Needs good skills required for the job, you cant talk these stuff right, you have to do it right.
>Maintanace-The understanding of it. This is going to be problematicand cut thin.
>Spares-The understanding of it, when you might need it. This is going to be problematic and cut thin.
>>Risk=The risk here is in management & skills. The claim is that its going to be better, but not proven.
>>Additional Risk=Long term costs. Costs maybe initially cheap on a promise, but as reality sets in, it could rise substancially due to profit and channelings.

STATE versus Priviatisation
As can be seen from other countries, privatisation did not any good in the long run either.
-Both can be politically influenced.
-Privatisations go where the money is, so country towns will have problems.
-A country has its citizens, where the management and workers are drawn from, so why on earth would privatisation of this major backbone be better than state controlled from the same base-?

just allow us to feed into the grid, don't care about anything else.

 

[cavedog]

Stupid TV headline writer. Stupid cavedog for blaming DA.

The truth:

WATCH: Eskom burns R6 billion diesel as it struggles with load shedding

Power utility warned SA to brace for more load shedding as it grapples with repairs to boiler tube leaks at its coal-fired power stations.

www.iol.co.za

It's not the trurth. I watched the full live briefing.

He said for the financial year ending March 2019 so that means March 2018 to March 2019 they spend R5 billion on diesel.

From March 2019 to date IF they have spend R500 million on diesel it would be A LOT.

That is what he said. It's in the live briefing I will tag the times in the briefing if I get them.

The news article is WRONG.

 

[irBosOtter]

Are you high right now? Read the post I quoted.



You were doing so well on the critical thinking but then how did you leap to the ANC being at fault and not the Nats?

Please point it out, you cant, cause there is none lololol

 

[BBSA]

So much for no load shedding on the weekend. Have fun not watching the quarter finals!

I have no sympathy for people who do not have a backup plan by now, we had Eskom issues for more than 10 years.

 

[SmartKit]

I have no sympathy for people who do not have a backup plan by now, we had Eskom issues for more than 10 years.

Well what are your options? Kill the planet or fork out a quarter of a million?

 

[BBSA]

Well what are your options? Kill the planet or fork out a quarter of a million?

You can have a backup for about R 7 000

 

[SmartKit]

You can have a backup for about R 7 000

What? To charge your phone?

OK, maybe one TV at a push?

Edit: watching the rugby is one thing but powering your entire house is quite another.

 

[BBSA]

What? To charge your phone? Maybe one TV at a push?

You can run a TV and decoder with 2 batteries and an inverter for more than 12 hours.

 

[SmartKit]

You can run a TV and decoder with 2 batteries and an inverter for more than 12 hours.

Yeah sure, but that's about it unfortunately

Of course the power was out for 23 hours here, not even the mighty Elon could save us!

 

[BBSA]

Yeah sure, but that's about it unfortunately

Of course the power was out for 23 hours here, not even the might Elon could save us!

Sure it will not run your household, but at least you don't have to cry that you can't watch rugby

Loadshedding is usually only 2 hours.

 

[Jopie Fourie]

Loadshedding is usually only 2 hours.

No such thing. Perhaps in big towns this is the case. At minimum 4.5 hours a time on all stages.

 

[Sinbad]

Sure it will not run your household, but at least you don't have to cry that you can't watch rugby

Loadshedding is usually only 2 hours.

City of Joburg it's 4.5 hours per slot as well. Plus some random number between 0 and 12 while they struggle to turn things back on

 

[BBSA]

Fine 4.5 hours, my point still stands.