2 Tankers Damaged After Torpedo Attack Near Strait Of Hormuz; Oil Soars

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Have you ever spoken to a Muslim . I think you will be in for a shock. We do not hate Jews. And have never been taught to hate anyone.
I have, I have worked for Muslims, I have Muslims at work here too. Amazing people most of them. But they also have this Pro-Palestine view purely based on religion. I avoid having these discussions with them flat out. There is no reasoning with them when it comes to Religion and Palestine.
 

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Maybe go ask them?

Odd example though... I assume you had to google quite a bit to come up with Iran :D
Odd indeed, not an example the usual us vs them brigade would like to engage on...Not really...common knowledge for me..my Jewish , non Zionist peeps at high school explained the internal dynamics of their tribe...just as our Islamic brethren explained theirs...see, diversity broadens horizons and make one curious about how others see life... and does not lead to entrenchment or defending a position , with no/limited information.
 
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Odd indeed, not an example the usual us vs them brigade would like to engage on...Not really...common knowledge for me..my Jewish , non Zionist peeps at high school explained the internal dynamics of their tribe...just as our Islamic brethren explained theirs...see, diversity broadens horizons and make one curious about how others see life... and does not lead to entrenchment or defending a position , with no/limited information.
Was never my standpoint.

As a Muslim, they defend Palestine no matter what they are doing. And that support is purely founded by Religion. That is a fact.
 

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https://japantoday.com/category/nat...ilors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack

Operator of tanker says sailors saw 'flying objects' just before attack
TOKYO

The Japanese operator ship operator of one of two oil tankers attacked near the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday said that sailors on board its vessel, the Kokuka Courageous, saw "flying objects" just before the attack, suggesting the tanker wasn't damaged by mines.

That account contradicts what the U.S. military has said as it released a video it says shows Iranian forces removing an unexploded limpet mine from one of the two ships in the suspected attack.

Speaking at a news conference in Tokyo, Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo Co, said he believes the flying objects seen by the sailors could be bullets, and denied possibility of mines or torpedoes because the damages were above the ship's waterline. He called reports of mine attack "false."

Katada said the crew members also spotted an Iranian naval ship nearby, but did not specify whether that was before or after the attacks. The tanker survived the first attack that hit near the engine room, followed by another causing damage to the star-board side toward the back.


Meanwhile, Japan's defense minister said the government has no intention of sending Japanese troops to respond to attacks on a Japanese-operated oil tanker in the Middle East.

All 21 Filipino crewmembers of the vessel were rescued and were now on a U.S. warship.

Takeshi Iwaya told reporters at a news conference that the situation is not considered an imminent threat to Japan.

Iwaya said Japan doesn't think the so-called "Self-Defense Force has a necessarily role to play at this point and we don't plan to send them to the Strait of Hormuz region in response to the attacks."
They saw bullets, which kind of bullet did they see? Reading this, if they saw 'bullets' then they were attacked before the tanker was hit. Just a strange story, but you have to take the interpretations and shock into account here of the sailors. Japan is right though, they are still 'limited' to a Self-Defence Force.
 

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Typical hate thread, can discuss the news, the issues this will cause, etc. No, better to insult others because that is all these threads seem to generate
 

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Long shot and maybe I'm just getting over excited here, but... What if China is behind this, trying to indirectly get the US (and allies) to look like the enemy as retaliation for the trade war? Am I getting a bit ahead of myself?
Romania & the Falkland Islands are also suspiciously silent on the matter.
The Falklands have a rusty axe to grind with the United Kingdom.
Romania - well, for schits & giggles really

great false flag opportunities to be had by all
 

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A. This could be a false flag by the US to force China to provide evidence of who really perpetrated this attack thereby admitting they are using Huawei to spy on countries.

B. This could be ISIS, they could be done by equipment stolen from the Syrian or Iraqi military

C. Saudi False flag attack.
 

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A. This could be a false flag by the US to force China to provide evidence of who really perpetrated this attack thereby admitting they are using Huawei to spy on countries.

B. This could be ISIS, they could be done by equipment stolen from the Syrian or Iraqi military

C. Saudi False flag attack.
A was really good, then you started to run out of creativity.
 

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A. This could be a false flag by the US to force China to provide evidence of who really perpetrated this attack thereby admitting they are using Huawei to spy on countries.

B. This could be ISIS, they could be done by equipment stolen from the Syrian or Iraqi military

C. Saudi False flag attack.
I think A, but not for the reasons you give. China wants to coax the US into another war in the Middle East so that the US will forget about the trade war. You can't have two wars (trade and millitary) at the same time.
 
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After the video's release, Iran continued to deny any involvement in the attacks. And perhaps now we know why.

In comments that cast the entire narrative promulgated by the US in doubt, Yutaka Katada, the president of Kokuka Sangyo, the owner and operator of the Kokuka Courageous, said Friday that he doesn't completely believe Washington's version of events.

Instead, he said the vessel wasn't damaged by a mine, but by some kind of projectile, like, say, a torpedo. He called reports of a mine attack "false." One reason is because a mine doesn't damage a ship above sea level, like what was seen with the Courageous.

"A mine doesn’t damage a ship above sea level," said Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo, the owner and operator of the vessel. "We aren’t sure exactly what hit, but it was something flying towards the ship," he said.

Another is because of a suspicious sighting by some of the crew, according to Bloomberg.
According to the CEO, sailors on board the Courageous saw "flying objects" just before the ship was hit, suggesting the vessel wasn't damaged by mines, but by objects that could have been fired from a distance.

Katada’s comments contradict Washington's allegations of a mine attack, though the CEO did mention that his crew had spotted an Iranian Navy ship nearby around the time of the attack, though he didn't say whether it was before or after.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-hit-mine-says-crew-saw-flying-objects-attack
 
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