2009 German Formula One Grand Prix

[Willie Trombone]

Ja, the Hamster is back... without first lap incidents, he could be in front before lap 1 is out. Race pace over the entire stretch may be telling though - tyre use for one... Heikki did a stunner with the inferior car. I am waiting for weights to be published though. Hopefully the FIA is to busy trying to fix the F1 mess to make any McLaren calls this weekend. How's Charlie Whiting's mind telling the big guns that they are not allowed to input. Man the FIA is not just rotten at Max' post.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Here we go:

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 661.0
2. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 647.0
3. Button Brawn-Mercedes 644.0
4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 661.0
5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 654.5
6. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 664.0
7. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 678.5
8. Massa Ferrari 673.5
9. Raikkonen Ferrari 674.0
10. Piquet Renault 676.0
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 681.0*
12. Alonso Renault 668.2*
13. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 683.6*
14. Trulli Toyota 683.7*
15. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 689.6*
16. Kubica BMW-Sauber 673.5*
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 674.5*
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 662.5*
19. Glock Toyota 662.3*
20. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 689.5*

Red Bulls are looking good, especially Webber! Check that Force India lol... talk about lucky - that had everything to do with rain and chaos IMO. Possibly even Heiki... I do think that the Hamster is a contender there though... only tomorrow will tell.

 

[sox63]

Hamilton and the Brawns need to clear the RBR cars quickly to make their light fuel loads work.

I think they are counting on rain to save their butts if Webber gets off to a good start.

For a change I'm REALLY looking forward to the race!

 

[BigAl-sa]

Here we go:

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
7. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 678.5

How's this one! Pretty decent if you ask me

 

[Thestealth]

How's this one! Pretty decent if you ask me

It's brilliant! They must convert it to points now. Sutil did a stellar job in a fat car. Kovi also did well considering he's got the kark McLaren (without the updates)

 

[Willie Trombone]

I still think that quali had alot to do with the confusion, rain and tyre timing for the Sutil thing....

 

[Thestealth]

No matter how he got to his pos, he's there and some of the other big names aren't. Kudos to FI for pulling it off

 

[AirWolf]

Well done to Webber on his win in F1.

What the hell happened to Hamilton?

 

[cfvh600]

Well done to Webber on his win in F1.

What the hell happened to Hamilton?

Had a puncture into the first corner of the first lap.

 

[killadoob]

Hamilton if you ask me got a bit hot and heavy into the first turn like only he can and clipped webbers front wing giving him a puncture.

He needs to relax, he should have just tucked in behind because that is a nasty first corner and the speed he carried was far too much hehe.

What a race by webber though, best GP of the season in my opinion and Rosberg was just amazing wow.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Webber absolutely pwned Vettel and is beginning to look the more experienced driver lately. Hamilton had a bad race, make no mistake... but to ask him to go easy on the start.... it is not going to happen IMO and that's why I love watching the guy.

 

[Willie Trombone]

No matter how he got to his pos, he's there and some of the other big names aren't. Kudos to FI for pulling it off

+1
Pity about the Kimi incident - time for him to retire (Kimi).

 

[Thestealth]

I think Sutil must stay away from Kimi as soon as he's anywhere near the points.

 

[sox63]

Hamilton if you ask me got a bit hot and heavy into the first turn like only he can and clipped webbers front wing giving him a puncture.

He needs to relax, he should have just tucked in behind because that is a nasty first corner and the speed he carried was far too much hehe.

What a race by webber though, best GP of the season in my opinion and Rosberg was just amazing wow.

The reason he did not make the turn in for the first corner was not speed, he got tapped from behind by Webber, thats what caused his puncture, and the crawl back to the pits on three wheels wrecked his car underneath.

On the race, it was certainly a BIT more entertaining than others so far, that were dry. Great defensive driving by Heiki, despite the bad car. Although he robbed us the spectators of a good contest by holding everyone up. And it was due to that there was nobody to put pressure on Webber after the drive through penalty.

Webber had a dirty start, making contact with 2 cars, and IMO the hit on Barrichelo was malicious and for that reason, I dont think he is deserving of the win. Not good sportsmanship.

 

[BigAl-sa]

Agree about Kimi. With Sutil's strategy (1-stop), he could have ended up ahead of the Ferraris when they went in for their 2nd stop if his tyres held.

Great race by Webber, frot one by Barrichelo though, not getting past Massa.

 

[killadoob]

How was he suppose to get pasted massa?

 

[BigAl-sa]

How was he suppose to get [-]pasted[/-] past massa?

He was between Kimi and Massa after his only stop when Kimi took him out. Massa had to stop again. If his pit stop was 1/2s faster, he would have been in front of Massa too.

Rereading the posts, I think you could be talking about Barrichelo. A bit more aggressive driving? He did have a lighter and faster car at the stage when he was stuck behind Massa.

 

[killadoob]

Yup but that is not his fault, his team got him stuck behind massa.

I still think brawn's 3 stop strat was poor in my opinion.

 

[BigAl-sa]

Yup but that is not his fault, his team got him stuck behind massa.

I still think brawn's 3 stop strat was poor in my opinion.

Would've worked if the predicted rain had happened, but I agree, they should have switched Barrichello to 2 stop after he got ahead of Webber.

 

[killadoob]

Well i do not think anything they did could have saved them, they had some major tyre issues on both the hard and the soft, with the soft they kept graining losing performance and the hard they could not get up to heat, which means they could not run fast.

Barrichello had the 11th fastest lap, as one of the reports i read this morning from brawn said you cannot win a race with your fastest lap being only the 11th fastest.