2009 Turkish Formula One Grand Prix

[AirWolf]

The Turkish Grand Prix Preview - a three-way fight in Istanbul?


This weekend’s race round Turkey’s Istanbul Park Circuit could show the direction in which the world championship battle will go over the next few Grands Prix. The unusual track, which runs anti-clockwise, places a premium on aerodynamic performance and that is bound to favour the Brawns.

However, it could also finally show us the true potential of Red Bull’s RB5, now boasting its own trick diffuser. And don’t discount Ferrari, the team on the rise and winners here the last three years…

Season calender.

 

[AirWolf]

Where is everyone?

 

[killadoob]

Here waiting for some info to check whats happening .

 

[Veroland]

Lurking around

 

[SirFooK'nG]

can't comment yet..... have to watch highlights tonight

 

[sox63]

FP1 Results

Times
01 N. Rosberg Williams 1:28.952 24 laps
02 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:29.263 23 laps
03 J. Trulli Toyota 1:29.271 26 laps
04 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:29.337 18 laps
05 F. Massa Ferrari 1:29.342 22 laps
06 K. Nakajima Williams 1:29.371 21 laps
07 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:29.398 25 laps
08 F. Alonso Renault 1:29.422 24 laps
09 R. Barrichello Brawn GP 1:29.525 25 laps
10 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:29.590 20 laps
11 J. Button Brawn GP 1:29.747 20 laps
12 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:29.864 22 laps
13 T. Glock Toyota 1:29.934 26 laps
14 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:30.132 18 laps
15 M. Webber Red Bull 1:30.176 22 laps
16 R. Kubica BMW 1:30.645 22 laps
17 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:30.689 20 laps
18 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:30.729 22 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:30.838 24 laps
20 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:30.944 26 laps

I watched FP1, and it was a very ragged session. All the cars really struggled with grip, but when they did hook it up, they produced good pace. So these times will fall in FP2, and the "real" pace setters will be visible.

Hamilton looked good, and toped the table for most of the session, till Williams pulled their now customary low fuel run.

PS: I'm really loving the fact that ALL FP sessions are now televised live. It is going to get me into trouble at work one of these days.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5364638,00.html

 

[killadoob]

FP1 is a load of hoghwash and i never look at it, how many times have williams and mclaren done well in sp1 and qualify way down the grid.

FP1 is not even close to an indication of what will happen, Fp2 is a little better but again rosberg is always on top yet cannot challenge for even 6th spot in quali. I cannot see how mclaren can do well considering it's pace.

Will be amazing if they get a top 6 quali if you ask me.

 

[SirFooK'nG]

hmmm Vettel is lookin good. Seriously someone to watch! Wonder if Lewis will F.... it up again on Quali ?!? Kimi still midpack, but Sutil pulled a nice one there.... As for Jenson, he looks slow until that last lap on qualifying - as usual. Will see tomorro...

 

[sox63]

hmmm Vettel is lookin good. Seriously someone to watch! Wonder if Lewis will F.... it up again on Quali ?!? Kimi still midpack, but Sutil pulled a nice one there.... As for Jenson, he looks slow until that last lap on qualifying - as usual. Will see tomorro...

Their sandbagging is starting to annoy me. Everyone knows they are faster, and yet they wait till the last moment. Hope ONE day, some other team has a car fast enough to make them regret it.

 

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

eeek...
so what goes where here for betting...

Post-qualifying car weights:


1 - Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull = 649.5kg *
2 - Jenson Button / Brawn = 655.5kg
3 - Rubens Barrichello / Brawn = 652.5kg *
4 - Mark Webber / Red Bull = 656.0kg
5 - Jarno Trulli / Toyota = 652.0kg *
6 - Kimi Räikkönen / Ferrari = 658.0kg
7 - Felipe Massa / Ferrari = 654.0kg *
8 - Fernando Alonso / Renault = 664.5kg *
9 - Nico Rosberg / Williams = 660.0kg *
10 - Robert Kubica / BMW = 664.0kg *
11 - Nick Heidfeld / BMW = 681.5kg
12 - Kazuki Nakajima / Williams = 680.4kg
13 - Timo Glock / Toyota = 689.0kg
14 - Heikki Kovalainen / McLaren = 665.0kg *
15 - Adrian Sutil / Force India = 668.5kg *
16 - Lewis Hamilton / McLaren = 696.5kg
17 - Nelson Piquet / Renault = 689.6kg
18 - Sébastien Buemi / Toro Rosso = 686.5kg *
19 - Giancarlo Fisichella / Force India = 688.5kg
20 - Sébastien Bourdais / Toro Rosso = 701.0kg

 

[Thestealth]

I hope the 2 red cars can get past Trulli before turn 1

 

[Sting]

History says that pole position always wins Turkish F1, hence Sebastian Vettel.

Form says Jenson Button; so do I.

Any race weather forecasts yet?

 

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

Dry race it seems.

 

[Thestealth]

Track temps are going to be in the 30 degree range, so the harder compound may be better

 

[[OUPA]MrNutz]

*yawn* ?

 

[killadoob]

Yup was a bit exciting with some of the over-taking though, not a total loss.

 

[Willie Trombone]

This thread is a sign of the state of F1. I believe the turkish grandstands were empty... for Bernie, it's no big deal because he doesn't make his money there, but for F1 fans, it's bad... it will come back to bite him eventually - then again, he doesn't care - wonder who's set to get his bucks when he moves on...

 

[killadoob]

Well dude if shummi never killed f1 i doubt this will.

The problem is the perf gaps in all the cars, you have the brawn that is amazing, then red bull which is decent and the rest all have poor cars.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Schumi is one driver - this issue is about money and TV rights - it all makes the sport go round - take the sponsors and TV out and you have A1GP
What does Bernie care if he's on his way out? I have no doubt the name F1 will continue - it's worth too much to throw away, but let's face it - now more than ever it is looking like F1 could just simply not mean what it has for the last 60 years.

 

[Veroland]

Hey, where is the thread for this weekends race?