2014 - November Rugby Internationals

[Creag]

WTF are you on about? I have no idea how you comment relates to mine.

I'm saying people in this thread are sad and angry when the boks lose. You laugh and feel satisfied with your "told you so"-attitude.

No idea what drinking spots that do well have to do with it.

The critter is a Troll! Weaves his/her infamy in the Cricket threads and got ignored. Now s/he is pulling the same trash inflammatory comments here in Rugby too

 

[OGroteKoning]

Also interesting to note that this is the only portion you commented on...

Just don't feed it matey

He's like a red rag to a bull, but I'm going to take a leaf out of Gregory's book and ignore the troll. His style is so clear now. He'll come here and rip through peoples honest emotions and then feign indignation when the replies come back with the inevitable insults.

Not worth it.

Yup, doing the same here. It is actually sad that this is the way that it seeks attention.

The critter is a Troll! Weaves his/her infamy in the Cricket threads and got ignored. Now s/he is pulling the same trash inflammatory comments here in Rugby too

It taints every thread it participates in with its hidden racial agendas. Best to ignore it.

 

[undesign]

The only players who can complain about politics are Chiliboy, Jantjies, Ashley Johnson&Aplon. Under-appreciated and forced to leave even though they were still good enough for the Boks.

Others like De Jong with enough skill&creativity have been sidelined due to Heyneke's limited&narrow-minded perception about players. Yes sand_man.

Both fans should question themselves as should Heyneke. I'm not sure a lot of the pretenders that have been recycled in the green jersey over the years are really that good. Certainly not that good to have been consistently selected ahead of some of these names.

The exact same thing happens in cricket. How many chances did Quinton de Kock get to fail while being persisted with? What about Colin Ingram, David Miller, and now Rossouw, soon van Zyl or Jacques Rudolph before them.

There's a disturbingly disproportionate amount of patience&expectation extended towards certain personalities not others, despite being very poor or average.

Makhaya Ntini never survived even a tiny fraction of the patience that has been repeatedly extended to Morkel. Tsolekile was never tried beyond a few innings he failed in. If Mthokozisi Shezi had been given the same chance in ODIs and produced the same poor record as Abbott has right now no one would focus on the fact that's he's economical too. Only that he must be dropped. #FACT Smith threatened to resign when noises were made about Faf being dropped, but he said no such thing when an excellent Prince was dropped, and only injury ever prevented a very poor Boucher form being dropped. Smith always stood by him.

There will be noises made about the inclination of my thoughts, but never dare deny their truthfulness. In the eyes of many fans and like-minded coaches&administrators at the helm - there is one law for others, and another for the rest. Simply reading through countless comments all over is proof that in sports, rugby+cricket in particular certain individuals are by default seen through different eyes regardless of their abilities or potential.

Yeah...and Behardien...o wait...

 

[faniebraai]

Yeh ok. I shall take advice offered, and ignore the farker from here on out. Just wished a mod has some power over keep vermin like this out.

 

[Creag]

Just don't feed it matey


Yup, doing the same here. It is actually sad that this is the way that it seeks attention.


It taints every thread it participates in with its hidden racial agendas. Best to ignore it.

As you say, don't feed it and it'll starve a miserable death

 

[Zyzzyva]

Frans is currently in Japan but he will be back for the Sharks in the Super 15. Apparently he has lost 8Kgs so hopefully he is a little quicker and back to his dynamic self.

 

[ZCFOutkast]

Weaves his/her infamy in the Cricket threads and got ignored.

Actually I experience nothing like this in that section. Just no cricket to speak of really. Wait until next week when they Gayleforce and Chanderwall comes calling. See you then McT.

 

[ZCFOutkast]

As you say, don't feed it and it'll starve a miserable death

Bertrand Russell - "Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd."

 

[sand_man]

For some perspective.

http://n24.cm/1yCzY7F

 

[Sneeky]

Just cut the cr@p, Morne Steyn at flyhalf and Francois Steyn at inside center.

 

[faniebraai]

For some perspective.

http://n24.cm/1yCzY7F

They keep going back to stats! Best year this, recird here, etc etc there.

Stats don't always reflect the truth...

 

[Creag]

And you can manipulate stays to prove any point.

 

[sand_man]

So we all in agreement that a Bok side playing well beneath themselves still managed a 71% win ratio?

Since the 2011 rugby World Cup the All Blacks have lost 2 games out of 45, a remarkable record and one of those 2 losses? This year against the Boks.

There's no denying the Boks, have at times, been diabolical this season but there have also been glimpses of sheer brilliance! Let's try remain confident and positive for next years rwc.

 

[OGroteKoning]

So we all in agreement that a Bok side playing well beneath themselves still managed a 71% win ratio?

Since the 2011 rugby World Cup the All Blacks have lost 2 games out of 45, a remarkable record and one of those 2 losses? This year against the Boks.

There's no denying the Boks, have at times, been diabolical this season but there have also been glimpses of sheer brilliance! Let's try remain confident and positive for next years rwc.

I try... I try! But I think we lack consistency. We have the players to beat any side any day, but somehow they can't do it consistently. And I also think we lack the ability to switch game plans in a game when we realise one isn't working.

 

[faniebraai]

I try... I try! But I think we lack consistency. We have the players to beat any side any day, but somehow they can't do it consistently. And I also think we lack the ability to switch game plans in a game when we realise one isn't working.

That's were on the field leadership comes in... some of my friends are of the opinion that HM does allow Jean to make those kinda decisions. I don't agree.

 

[OGroteKoning]

That's were on the field leadership comes in... some of my friends are of the opinion that HM does allow Jean to make those kinda decisions. I don't agree.

I don't agree with your friends ... I think they go on the field and stick with the same plane from beginning to end. I can't remember when last I have seen the Boks change the way they play mid-game ... against Samoa? In 2007? We were battling along and it looked like the Samoans would cause an upset - then our bench (more experienced players) came on and everything changed - even the game plan.

 

[Sm00thSm0k3]

Just cut the cr@p, Morne Steyn at flyhalf

Steyn's goal kicking abilities will be invaluable in the WC, hence why I foresee him being in the squad.

Other than that he has nothing to offer. Hardly any ball carrying skills and lacks the creativity that Lambie and Pollard bring to the table.

I think they go on the field and stick with the same plane from beginning to end. I can't remember when last I have seen the Boks change the way they play mid-game ... against Samoa? In 2007? We were battling along and it looked like the Samoans would cause an upset - then our bench (more experienced players) came on and everything changed - even the game plan.

+1

Currently there doesn't seem to be a Plan B in place when it is required.
There is plan A.....and plan A.

It doesn't help much when you have impact players on the bench but when they come on they still only employ plan A.

 

[faniebraai]

I don't agree with your friends ... I think they go on the field and stick with the same plane from beginning to end. I can't remember when last I have seen the Boks change the way they play mid-game ... against Samoa? In 2007? We were battling along and it looked like the Samoans would cause an upset - then our bench (more experienced players) came on and everything changed - even the game plan.

sorry. just read my post and let me just fix something

some of my friends are of the opinion that HM does NOT allow Jean to make those kinda decisions. I don't agree.

 

[faniebraai]

Steyn's goal kicking abilities will be invaluable in the WC, hence why I foresee him being in the squad.

Other than that he has nothing to offer. Hardly any ball carrying skills and lacks the creativity that Lambie and Pollard bring to the table.

And he can't tackle for schit

 

[MickeyD]

Yeh ok. I shall take advice offered, and ignore the farker from here on out. Just wished a mod has some power over keep ****** like this out.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

However, ZFC... stay on topic within the various threads, please. This is a rugby thread not cricket, soccer, etc.