2017 Mazda CX-5 (Gen 2)

franvren · Nov 4, 2020

Hi all, I’ve just purchased a CX-5 (2017 December model) 2.2de Active (2nd gen) with low kilo’s and already had leather seats (Active comes with cloth) and is enjoying it a lot especially that turbo diesel.. it’s such a joy to drive!

Just a couple of questions:
1) I have the 17inch wheels.. but like the looks on 19inch more. Is it worth it to swop it? I will probably have to pay more for the 19s. Is the 17s cheaper to replace the tyres? Which one gives a better drive?
2) I can’t seem to find out if the engine is 129kw/420nm or 140kw/450nm (I’ve seen 140kw and 129kw on different articles for the 2nd gen 2.2de models) If it’s 129kw can Mazda tweak it to bring it to 140kw or is it like a whole new engine?

Thanks in advance!

The Voice · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Hi all, I’ve just purchased a CX-5 (2017 December model) 2.2de Active (2nd gen) with low kilo’s and already had leather seats (Active comes with cloth) and is enjoying it a lot especially that turbo diesel.. it’s such a joy to drive!

Just a couple of questions:
1) I have the 17inch wheels.. but like the looks on 19inch more. Is it worth it to swop it? I will probably have to pay more for the 19s. Is the 17s cheaper to replace the tyres? Which one gives a better drive?
2) I can’t seem to find out if the engine is 129kw/420nm or 140kw/450nm (I’ve seen 140kw and 129kw on different articles for the 2nd gen 2.2de models) If it’s 129kw can Mazda tweak it to bring it to 140kw or is it like a whole new engine?

Thanks in advance!

Bigger size probably doesn't make much difference to ride comfort in an SUV, but I can tell you that while I love the look of the 18's on my 3, the ride is... harsh. UK roads are dogshit compared to SA, though, so you may get away with the bigger wheels. And yes, more rubber will cost you more.

Brieuse · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Hi all, I’ve just purchased a CX-5 (2017 December model) 2.2de Active (2nd gen) with low kilo’s and already had leather seats (Active comes with cloth) and is enjoying it a lot especially that turbo diesel.. it’s such a joy to drive!

Just a couple of questions:
1) I have the 17inch wheels.. but like the looks on 19inch more. Is it worth it to swop it? I will probably have to pay more for the 19s. Is the 17s cheaper to replace the tyres? Which one gives a better drive?
2) I can’t seem to find out if the engine is 129kw/420nm or 140kw/450nm (I’ve seen 140kw and 129kw on different articles for the 2nd gen 2.2de models) If it’s 129kw can Mazda tweak it to bring it to 140kw or is it like a whole new engine?

Thanks in advance!

I would keep the 17's, the tyres that fit the 19's are super rare and expensive. R4500 each.

BigBear · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Hi all, I’ve just purchased a CX-5 (2017 December model) 2.2de Active (2nd gen) with low kilo’s and already had leather seats (Active comes with cloth) and is enjoying it a lot especially that turbo diesel.. it’s such a joy to drive!

Just a couple of questions:
1) I have the 17inch wheels.. but like the looks on 19inch more. Is it worth it to swop it? I will probably have to pay more for the 19s. Is the 17s cheaper to replace the tyres? Which one gives a better drive?
2) I can’t seem to find out if the engine is 129kw/420nm or 140kw/450nm (I’ve seen 140kw and 129kw on different articles for the 2nd gen 2.2de models) If it’s 129kw can Mazda tweak it to bring it to 140kw or is it like a whole new engine?

Thanks in advance!

I have 19s ride is firm but not harsh

Errols lists tyres 225/55R19 around 3-4k

They also came out with these 19s

Like the 17s like these

Prices around 2-3k

Quote i got in Aug..

2. I am sure some reputable software guys can pump up the 2.2 diesel, 2.0 L petrol have different engine designs and can't be tuned.

Have had some Ford's tuned through Kevin @ Quantec

Kevin @ 0833813699

#quantectuning #software #remap #tune #power #torque #diesel

Can give him a ring.

Brieuse · Nov 5, 2020

BigBear said:
I have 19s ride is firm but not harsh

Errols lists tyres 225/55R19 around 3-4k

They also came out with these 19s

Like the 17s like these

Prices around 2-3k

Quote i got in Aug..

2. I am sure some reputable software guys can pump up the 2.2 diesel, 2.0 L petrol have different engine designs and can't be tuned.

Have had some Ford's tuned through Kevin @ Quantec

Kevin @ 0833813699

#quantectuning #software #remap #tune #power #torque #diesel

Can give him a ring.

ok looks like the prices are coming down a bit. I had to replace a tyre last December due to a puncture, had to wait two weeks for stock. If I recall correctly the Michelin then was on the wrong side of R4k. OEM (TOYO) were R4.5k

franvren · Nov 5, 2020

Thanks for the answers! I think I’ll keep the 17s.

Another couple of questions:
1) I’ve contacted Mazda Menlyn and they told me it will cost me R5400 to have the apple carplay/android auto installed. That sounds a bit too expensive. Is it a ripoff? Or is it what it cost these days? Also is it worth having it? I would like to use my google maps.

2) Is it worth to have the extended warranty/service plan? Mine expires end of this year.

Thanks again!

unobeat · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Thanks for the answers! I think I’ll keep the 17s.

Another couple of questions:
1) I’ve contacted Mazda Menlyn and they told me it will cost me R5400 to have the apple carplay/android auto installed. That sounds a bit too expensive. Is it a ripoff? Or is it what it cost these days? Also is it worth having it? I would like to use my google maps.

2) Is it worth to have the extended warranty/service plan? Mine expires end of this year.

Thanks again!

1. Did not know that, it costs that much to have it installed. Its a nice feature to have installed and i am the unit itself plus wiring is not that expensive. Labour must the one pushing the price up. Did they send you a quote to detail prices for the unit and labour?

2. Yeah sure
Check prices to extend the warranty and service then work it by how many kilos you do yearly.

In terms of reliability these SUV are solid and strong with no issues at all mechanically.

When i bought ours, the warranty had just expired in July 2020 and i took an aftermarket AA warranty for peace of mind.

I will have to use it to replace the passenger mirror motor has it does not fold all the way like the drivers side.

unobeat · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Hi all, I’ve just purchased a CX-5 (2017 December model) 2.2de Active (2nd gen) with low kilo’s and already had leather seats (Active comes with cloth) and is enjoying it a lot especially that turbo diesel.. it’s such a joy to drive!

Just a couple of questions:
1) I have the 17inch wheels.. but like the looks on 19inch more. Is it worth it to swop it? I will probably have to pay more for the 19s. Is the 17s cheaper to replace the tyres? Which one gives a better drive?
2) I can’t seem to find out if the engine is 129kw/420nm or 140kw/450nm (I’ve seen 140kw and 129kw on different articles for the 2nd gen 2.2de models) If it’s 129kw can Mazda tweak it to bring it to 140kw or is it like a whole new engine?

Thanks in advance!

Congratulations and may you have trouble free motoring experience.

With regards to what engine you have, maybe check at the dealership with your VIN Number.

AsteriskUser · Nov 5, 2020

franvren said:
Thanks for the answers! I think I’ll keep the 17s.

Another couple of questions:
1) I’ve contacted Mazda Menlyn and they told me it will cost me R5400 to have the apple carplay/android auto installed. That sounds a bit too expensive. Is it a ripoff? Or is it what it cost these days? Also is it worth having it? I would like to use my google maps.

2) Is it worth to have the extended warranty/service plan? Mine expires end of this year.

Thanks again!

I had mine done last year some time. I think it was closer to R3500? I use mine every day for waze, especially with the turbo diesel breaking the speed limit isn’t hard. Regarding the tires I would stay with 17, yes 19’s look nice but they are a weird size so more expensive as well as the ride is better on the 17’s, pot holes are not fun with 19’s.

I would extend the warranty for sure, after 16 000km my one injector went bad and had to be replaced at R15k (also have the diesel)

Brieuse · Nov 5, 2020

AsteriskUser said:
I had mine done last year some time. I think it was closer to R3500? I use mine every day for waze, especially with the turbo diesel breaking the speed limit isn’t hard. Regarding the tires I would stay with 17, yes 19’s look nice but they are a weird size so more expensive as well as the ride is better on the 17’s, pot holes are not fun with 19’s.

I would extend the warranty for sure, after 16 000km my one injector went bad and had to be replaced at R15k (also have the diesel)

I also heard R3.5k, but apparently there were two things that had to be done, which could get to that R5.5K

epah · Nov 5, 2020

Brieuse said:
I also heard R3.5k, but apparently there were two things that had to be done, which could get to that R5.5K

R5.5 is a bit steep but if you can’t bring the amount down I think you should still pay it. Apple car play will just add another level of premium to the overall package and I am sure you will enjoy it.

esmile · Nov 6, 2020

franvren said:
Thanks for the answers! I think I’ll keep the 17s.

Another couple of questions:
1) I’ve contacted Mazda Menlyn and they told me it will cost me R5400 to have the apple carplay/android auto installed. That sounds a bit too expensive. Is it a ripoff? Or is it what it cost these days? Also is it worth having it? I would like to use my google maps.

2) Is it worth to have the extended warranty/service plan? Mine expires end of this year.

Thanks again!

With regards to the carplay/android auto add-on, maybe check with other dealerships. It's not a fixed price that they are all charging the same. I know someone who took their car to Woodmead because it was about +-R500-R1000 cheaper. Maybe get the quote and use it as a bargaining tool with Mazda Menlyn.

AsteriskUser · Nov 7, 2020

As far as I know it was only the usb module in the center console changed. Just know that if you have a heads up display like me, I used to get speed signs and navigation on the windscreen when you change this module you lose on board nav so those things ago away. Wish CarPlay worked with it it would be amazing.

The Voice · Nov 7, 2020

AsteriskUser said:
As far as I know it was only the usb module in the center console changed. Just know that if you have a heads up display like me, I used to get speed signs and navigation on the windscreen when you change this module you lose on board nav so those things ago away. Wish CarPlay worked with it it would be amazing.

They upgrade the firmware and software for Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The hardware upgrade is to bump the USB up to 2.0 I think, and amperage is slightly higher, too, so you can actually charge your phone while you use it.

And yeah, major downer for me is losing the info on the HUD.

k@vi · Nov 7, 2020

I have the 2.5L FWD and it was around R3500 to upgrade to Android/Apple Carplay. Whilst on navigation on Google Maps you definitely don't have the directions on the HUD. The standard navigation still shows on the HUD.
You get 3 years to get free upgrades on the standard navigation.

The Voice · Nov 7, 2020

k@vi said:
I have the 2.5L FWD and it was around R3500 to upgrade to Android/Apple Carplay. Whilst on navigation on Google Maps you definitely don't have the directions on the HUD. The standard navigation still shows on the HUD.
You get 3 years to get free upgrades on the standard navigation.

Losing the nav info doesn't bother me as much as the traffic sign recognition info not displaying (they're super tight with speed limits here in the UK, and knowing when I've gone over is very useful). Does that still work, because while it recognises most signs, it still relies on info in the OEM nav for local speed limits, etc.

franvren · Nov 8, 2020

From which CX-5 model have the HUD display? Mine definitely doesn’t have it

k@vi · Nov 8, 2020

franvren said:
From which CX-5 model have the HUD display? Mine definitely doesn’t have it

HUD is on the Individual trim spec.

FiestaST · Nov 9, 2020

FiestaST · Jan 11, 2021

Pricing! Mazda CX-5 range gains new ‘Carbon Edition’ model in SA

Mazda Southern Africa has added a new Carbon Edition derivative to its CX-5 range.

The Carbon Edition effectively replaces the CX-5 2,0 Individual Auto FWD model, inheriting that variant’s specification level. Power comes from the Japanese firm’s familiar naturally aspirated 2,0-litre, four-cylinder petrol engine, which generates an unchanged 121 kW and 213 N.m.

Priced at R565 800, the CX-5 2,0 Carbon Edition is set apart by its gloss-black side-mirror caps and 19-inch black metallic alloy wheels. Inside, the newcomer gains leather-and-suede trim (with red stitching) for the seats. A black finish for the facia and door panels, plus red stitching on the steering wheel, gear lever and knee pads, are also included.