2019 Election Results – The rise and fall of the ANC and DA

thechamp said:
The problem with some MyBb's forumites has always been the capability of being unable to remove wishful thinking from their reasoning. Think about thus for a minute, even with all the bungling the DA has managed to lose what, a little more over two percent? The great challenger the VFplus, with all the slaan terug has managed to double their numbers, from less than 1% to over two percent, if they go at this rate how many years is it going to take them to make 10%?

The EFF are so full of themselves and they take their supporters for granted, going around making unproven allegation against the likes of Pravin is not going to win them many friends, casting aspersions on every appointment done by Ramsphosa and generally adopting the posture of opposing for the sake of opposing. I don't see them taking the full advantage of their potential in future.
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The polls tell a different story though?
 
BBSA said:
I hope they split. Hopefully the faction who really wants a non racial South Africa will grow. The faction who wants to play identity politics must just die.
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It seems like you are genuinely passionate about your plea of wanting a non racial SA, I applaud that. Here is the problem though, there are no simple solution for that, shouting that you want a non racial SA by mantaining the status quo is not going to work with some people, taking steps to actively rock the boat by adopting policies such as AA and BEE is also not going to work.with others, that is the dilemma that the DA finds itself in and to be honest if you don't to recognize that as a dilemma you aren't being honest.

Those who want to split frpm the DA because of the seemingly pro black policies they have adopted should not waste their time trying to form a party, just go straight to the Freedom Front.
 
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BBSA said:
I hope they split. Hopefully the faction who really wants a non racial South Africa will grow. The faction who wants to play identity politics must just die.
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They did split. The faction who really wants a non racial South Africa became the Good party and everyone ignored them.
 
C4Cat said:
They did split. The faction who really wants a non racial South Africa became the Good party and everyone ignored them.
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GOOD are almost all coloured not sure how that translates to wanting a non racial SA.
 
thechamp said:
Elaborate?
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The EFF are so full of themselves and they take their supporters for granted, going around making unproven allegation against the likes of Pravin is not going to win them many friends, casting aspersions on every appointment done by Ramsphosa and generally adopting the posture of opposing for the sake of opposing.
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This behavior has got them the biggest increase in the elections, putting them in a stronger position and bring more of thier own to the table.
 
BBSA said:
They not using race as a proxy for disadvantage?

De Lille came from the PAC, who was very obsessed with race.
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The whole country was obsessed with race. There is a difference between using race as a proxy and recognising our legacy which resulted in race based inequalities.
 
R13... said:
Their vote is the coloured vote. I know Aunty Pat has said she's not targeting the coloured vote exclusively but the reality is their base is coloured
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Yeah, well that's what I meant when I said everyone ignored them (not literally everyone obviously) - they can grow their base and hopefully will going forward
 
R13... said:
Their vote is the coloured vote. I know Aunty Pat has said she's not targeting the coloured vote exclusively but the reality is their base is coloured
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It is okay to start off with a base like that. Every party needs a base.

The DA done it and it worked. Started off as a ''white party'' and then under Tony and Helen were able to grow in to the black vote.

Unfortunately the last couple of years they went full race-obsessed and scuppered their own ship.
 
thechamp said:
It seems like you are genuinely passionate about your plea of wanting a non racial SA, I applaud that. Here is the problem though, there are no simple solution for that, shouting that you want a non racial SA by mantaining the status quo is not going to work with some people, taking steps to actively rock the boat by adopting policies such as AA and BEE is also not going to work.with others, that is the dilemma that the DA finds itself in and to be honest if you don't to recognize that as a dilemma you aren't being honest.

Those who want to split frpm the DA because of the seemingly pro black.pplicies they have adopted should not wate their time trying to form a party, just go straight to the Freedom Front.
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You do not need racist laws and policies to help the previous disadvantaged. By helping all disadvantaged people you will manly help backs as they are the ones who are mostly disadvantage.

FF+ is a party for minority, the will never grow much bigger.

Many of us who voted DA many times, because we wanted a non-racial South Africa, are looking for a new home.
 
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BBSA said:
So Cyril did worse than Zuma :oops:

The hyenas, within the ANC, will be out in full force next week...
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I actually think he did a great job for the ANC.

Jury will be out when he forms the cabinet based on size and composition. I reckon if he does the business friendly thing and continues his clamp down then end of this year gonna be fun.
 
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Dear Staffwriter,

The reporting in general in the past at "mybroadband.co.za" is accurate and to the point.
Please do not undermine yourself, "mybroadband.co.za" and in effect us members here by bias and false reporting.

Any moderate motivated analyst looking at the election results data will find your commentary in the "2019 Election Results" publication lacking.

Some important points missing from your report.
1. Voter turn out.
Perhaps the most important observation.
In some ways more important than any progress or otherwise of any party.
See chart at bottom for this. It is clear the general populous is slowly losing faith/ interest in the politics.
Give us your learned views on this.

2. Partial party progress reporting.
In some quarters this may be referred to as not genuine news.
Other than the ANC and the DA, the parties one have a duty to at least mention are: EFF, IFP, VF+.
Why do you jump to the smallest VF+? You ignore the very relevant entries for parties EFF and IFP.

I urge you not to report what you think we want to hear, the real world will affect us all.
Live up to what is expected of you.
Report the news as it is.
Equip those that can and want to read to be informed.

Best regards,

fundutzi

Chart 1: Election stats: Some parties 1999 ~ 2019*
{* elections.org.za- votes 99.94% done}
Source: https://www.elections.org.za

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Chart 2: Election stats: Registered Population vs Voter turnout in Mil 1999 ~ 2019*
{* elections.org.za- votes 99.94% done}
Source: https://www.elections.org.za
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