2019 Rugby World Cup

[sand_man]

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[Fulcrum29]

Unconfirmed reports say the England vs France game is off.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1181926395762491392

This Tweet isn't conclusive. World Rugby may still move the venues as per some continuity plan they spoke about a week or two ago.

 

[daveza]

Sucks, that's the one game I wanted to watch on Saturday.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Sucks, that's the one game I wanted to watch on Saturday.

This is the statement released by World Rugby yesterday,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1181524077061632002

I guess more will be known by tomorrow.

 

[Creag]

That was a proper knock to the head.

Appreciate the info. The hazards of following live action through the writ of Espn Rugby's commentary.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Rugby World Cup, F1 and typhoons: what could happen? | Sport

A powerful typhoon is bearing down on Japan and could severely disrupt the last round of pool games at the Rugby World Cup.

www.sport24.co.za

Rugby World Cup, F1 and typhoons: what could happen?

What plans do organisers have?

Organisers have frequently trumpeted what they call a "robust" contingency plan, with options including postponing a match, moving venues or cancelling it.

In a recent interview with AFP, tournament organiser Alan Gilpin explained the timescale of when they would take a decision on whether to move a match or change the timing of a game.

"From a match perspective, 72 hours out, we want to know really if there are going to be any potential adverse impacts. So that's the kind of early warning. If it looks like there will be, from that point, we are getting updated information every three hours," explained Gilpin.

"And then 24 hours out really, we need to know, from a fairly realistic perspective, what is the impact of that tropical storm, typhoon."

"Where's that going to strike, what's the wind speed and what's the potential impact of that. So we'll pre-make decisions 24 hours out," he added.

A decision on cancelling a match would be confirmed "six to eight hours out," the organiser added.

Rugby World Cup matches at risk as Super Typhoon Hagibis escalates

England’s match against France and Scotland’s eliminator with Japan may be moved to different venues or cancelled

www.theguardian.com

Rugby World Cup matches at risk as Super Typhoon Hagibis escalates

Sources suggested the England versus France match could be moved to Oita, in Japan’s far south, while Japan could play Scotland in Sapporo, in the far north. Others have suggested the latter game could be delayed to avoid saddling Scotland with an elimination many would consider a travesty. The French rugby newspaper Midi Olympique claimed both matches would be cancelled.

The stadiums in Oita and Sapporo have retractable roofs, but a late shift in location has the potential to cause havoc for more than 140,000 supporters, many of whom are already in Tokyo and Yokohama.

England and France, who have qualified for the knockout stage with a game to spare, can afford to be more sanguine than Scotland about any disruption. But England’s defence coach, John Mitchell, said Eddie Jones’s players were preparing for all contingencies.

Will Typhoon Hagibis affect World Cup?

England and Scotland's final pool matches at the World Cup this weekend are under threat from Typhoon Hagibis.

www.bbc.com

Rugby World Cup: What does Typhoon Hagibis mean for England and Scotland?

What are the options?

Organisers could move games away from the area where Typhoon Hagibis is expected to make landfall. It had been suggested that England's meeting with France, due to be played in Yokohama, could be shifted 600 miles away to Oita.

However, Oita is a far smaller venue, with space for 40,000 spectators compared to Yokohama's capacity of 72,327, and that option is considered unlikely. Instead the matches could be played behind closed doors to limit the risk to spectators.

It has also been suggested Scotland's match with Japan could delayed by 24 hours but, according to the tournament rules, it is not possible to postpone pool-stage matches to another day.

If both matches are cancelled, this would result in them declared a draw, with two points awarded to each team.

The French media stirred the match cancellation. I know that World Rugby has stated to make special provision which may succeed the RWC rules, but little is known about this contingency plan. I guess, under the worst-case scenario the matches will indeed be cancelled, otherwise be played behind closed doors. In better conditions, the venues will be moved and lower value ticketholders will be compensated. Under best circumstances, the matches will continue as scheduled.

The question though, behind-closed-doors, will these matches be broadcasted, delayed broadcasted or will only select ticketholders and the media have the privilege to attend these matches?

 

[sand_man]

Japans hosting has been impeccable. Pretty sure the game will go ahead at a suitable time and venue..

 

[losta]

Après avoir privilégié la piste de la délocalisation, World Rugby, confronté à des problèmes logistiques, reviendrait à sa position initiale : annuler le Crunch, mais aussi le décisif Japon-Ecosse, ce qui qualifierait d’office le pays-hôte pour les quarts de finale.

Meaning that the Japan- Scotland game will be cancelled as well, with Japan going to the quarters

 

[losta]

Japan-SA
Wales-France
NZ-Ireland
England-Australia

 

[Fulcrum29]

Après avoir privilégié la piste de la délocalisation, World Rugby, confronté à des problèmes logistiques, reviendrait à sa position initiale : annuler le Crunch, mais aussi le décisif Japon-Ecosse, ce qui qualifierait d’office le pays-hôte pour les quarts de finale.

Meaning that the Japan- Scotland game will be cancelled as well, with Japan going to the quarters

France is being sensational, they may only make assumptions, but as per the 1st article I have posted:

"From a match perspective, 72 hours out, we want to know really if there are going to be any potential adverse impacts. So that's the kind of early warning. If it looks like there will be, from that point, we are getting updated information every three hours," explained Gilpin.

"And then 24 hours out really, we need to know, from a fairly realistic perspective, what is the impact of that tropical storm, typhoon."

"Where's that going to strike, what's the wind speed and what's the potential impact of that. So we'll pre-make decisions 24 hours out," he added.

A decision on cancelling a match would be confirmed "six to eight hours out," the organiser added.

Just as a notice, the U/20 WR Trophy 2017 held in Uruguay was supposed to be cancelled. It happened that the match was scheduled to continue but was stopped and Japan declared the winner.

The same conditions Tonga and Samoa played in during the PNC this year.

Players slam atrocious conditions in Samoa v Tonga rugby test

'No top tier team would have played in torrential rainstorm', claims Tonga veteran.

www.stuff.co.nz

Tongan players have denounced the decision to allow their Pacific Nations Cup game against Samoa to go ahead in atrocious conditions in Apia.

Samoa won 27-15 at Apia Park on Saturday after Tonga had two players sinbinned.

But Tonga midfielder Cooper Vuna has criticised the conditions, saying no top tier nation would be expected to play on a pitch which degenerated into a muddy morass following torrential rain.

"Please @WorldRugby enlighten us all on what processes you took to allow this game to go ahead," Vuna said on Twitter."

My question is – if a tier 1 team was to play that day ,would the game still go on?

None which was caused by a Typhoon, not close to the one now heading to Japan. Reading other media, there seems to be an urgency to postpone the Japan vs Scotland match by 24 hours and to cancel the France vs England match. I guess that France and England can play behind closed doors and that the Japan vs Scotland match may be postponed until Monday.

 

[daveza]

I hope no games are cancelled, just rescheduled.

No team should go through by circumstance.

 

[John Tempus]

I hope no games are cancelled, just rescheduled.

No team should go through by circumstance.

Doubt it. Lets take a look at SA Cricket and how many times we have been fkd by something way sillier like duckworth lewis system that would delay a game by a few hours only. Just stick to the worst case rules and if a team gets fkd then so be it.

 

[yebocan]

pfff ... bit of wind and a spot of rain ... game gets rescheduled/ cancelled ... what snowflakes ...back in my day.....

 

[dunkyd]

Was it PE when there was mention of forwards drowning in a maul ?

 

[Sl8er]

pfff ... bit of wind and a spot of rain ... game gets rescheduled/ cancelled ... what snowflakes ...back in my day.....

Exactly

 

[thestaggy]

Foreign expertise helped them tune their test rugby, remember they have a limited selection come to national duty.

French coach (2005-2006)

Johan Kirwan (2007-2011)

Eddie Jones (2012-2015)

Mark Hammet (interim)

Jamie Joseph (2016-)

Not too many people may like what I am going to say, especially some Japan rugby pundits, but Kirwan sank Japan. Foreign rugby and players were promoted above all.

Jones corrected the damage done by Kirwan. Joseph built on Jones, but regrettably, though Joseph is now being recognised he has done very little to promote the Japanese youth. I now believe his plan was to deliver an acceptable result at this RWC, then to bring the youth into the national development channels and relinquish the coaching to another coach in 2021 where he may either return to New Zealand or continue as a director serving the JRFU which will give him space to move between New Zealand and Japan.

Not a single player which Jones said will be the next big Japanese stars have played at this RWC. Japan’s most heroic player is Kazuki Himeno which is 25, and he was recruited by Joseph, and this guy is likely to be Japan’s next captain.

They do have good ethnic coaches, but with very little international exposure. The Sunwolves is now being coached by a Japanese coach, and it will be interesting to see what he can turn up in 2020 and I really hope that they shop in-house this time around.

All I know is, Joseph will be high in demand. Listening to the Kiwi panel the other day they already speculated about the All Blacks bringing in the Trio. The Trio being Joseph, Tony Brown and Scott Hansen. I must add, the little time John Plumtree spent with the Japanese squad made them monstrous in their tackles. Their tackle success rate is averaging above 90%, and that also against Ireland.

For now. I hope Japan turn up at the quarters. They will send Typhoon Haggis back to Scotland.

Springboks 1st, but it is damn hard to place Japan 2nd in my heart.

I really do hope it doesn't turn out that everything was building towards this WC. It we be a shame for rugby if Japan regressed.

It would make sense that you would want a strong showing at home which would also help to gain exposure for the sport in Japan, but one hopes there is some long-term planning as well.

 

[SlowInternet]

So it's only 2 games so far that have been cancelled for the weekend.

Pool B match between New Zealand and Italy
Pool C match between England and France

 

[Sl8er]

So it's only 2 games so far that have been cancelled for the weekend.

Pool B match between New Zealand and Italy
Pool C match between England and France

Have these actually been cancelled-cancelled?
I mean, no postponements, no venue relocations?

 

[Binary_Bark]

So from the RWC site itself, so far just two games cancelled, other games to be decided later.

Friday, 11 October

• Pool D match between Australia and Georgia in Shizuoka at 19:15 JST to be played as scheduled

Saturday, 12 October

• Pool A match between Ireland and Samoa in Fukuoka at 19:45 JST to be played as scheduled
• Pool B match between New Zealand and Italy to be cancelled
• Pool C match between England and France to be cancelled

Sunday, 13 October

• Every effort is being made to ensure Sunday’s matches will be played as scheduled. A thorough assessment of venues will take place after the typhoon has passed before a final decision is made on Sunday morning.

RWC Website Typhoon Update

 

[SlowInternet]

Have these actually been cancelled-cancelled?
I mean, no postponements, no venue relocations?

Cancelled.

World Rugby and the Japan Rugby 2019 Organising Committee have announced an update regarding the predicted impact of Typhoon Hagibis on this weekend’s pool matches. This includes the cancellation of two matches on safety grounds.

https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/update