2019 Rugby World Cup

Agent_Smith

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I think that was the plan, now that I've had time to process it. We all slated Faf for his incessant kicking but when Jantjies came on with the game won, the first thing he did was kick. No thought to run it.
 

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What always puzzles me, the Boks get shitted on because of their style of play, but yet they have scored the most tries by far.


But when the All Flats play it is 'ooh look at the style of play'

Does one no look pass make you okes cream your pants?
 
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Great that we won, but did we have to kick as much as we did?
Some of Faf's kicks were terrible, we kick the ball and land in almost the exact same place but just conceding possession.

Was close in the first half but our defence was solid and nullified their attack. Let's hope our attack improves against Wales.

Oh, and Willie caught one of their up-and-unders, so there is hope :p
The defences rush up so quickly so there's a risk that if you pass the ball you just get caught behind the advantage line and go backwards or lose the ball if a backline player is issolated.

The idea behind kicking is playing for territory. So with a good kick you gain many easy meters and have a 50-50 chance of getting the ball back. If you get the ball back you have a great advantage with front foot ball, momentum and the opposition's defence not properly set.

Almost everyone kicks.
I think that lost Japan the game today. They also started kicking too much when they didn't get fast ball atthe rucks in the second half.
In the first half when they tried to run they did a lot better, they should just have kept that up.

The last few bad kicks were just because faf's leg was getting tiered, he did do it like a 100 times.

Irelands defence also rush up quickly, not as quick as We or Japan perhaps, but NZ literally ran circle around them by just standing really deap and giving themselves space to run.
 
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i NEVER watch rugby but i decided to watch todays match, i enjoyed it, i dig that liettle Fap fap dude :thumbsup: i was expecting a million ninjas on the Japan side but there were a few Afrikaaners by the looks of it, how does that work?
 

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i NEVER watch rugby but i decided to watch todays match, i enjoyed it, i dig that liettle Fap fap dude i was expecting a million ninjas on the Japan side but there were a few Afrikaaners by the looks of it, how does that work?
They move there, become citizens after 5 years and can then be picked for Japan if they didn't already represent SA.
 

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The defences rush up so quickly so there's a risk that if you pass the ball you just get caught behind the advantage line and go backwards or lose the ball if a backline player is issolated.

The idea behind kicking is playing for territory. So with a good kick you gain many easy meters and have a 50-50 chance of getting the ball back. If you get the ball back you have a great advantage with front foot ball, momentum and the opposition's defence not properly set.

Almost everyone kicks.
I think that lost Japan the game today. They also started kicking too much when they didn't get fast ball atthe rucks in the second half.
In the first half when they tried to run they did a lot better, they should just have kept that up.

The last few bad kicks were just because faf's leg was getting tiered, he did do it like a 100 times.
Except Australia, they don't kick. But look where that got them.
 

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Good result. Looking back at our opening game, I was confident we'd put it behind us, and just plough through the rest. Wales isn't going to be an easy match by any means, but I'm sure we'll dig deep.
 

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A few comments...

There's a danger that the focus on high tackles is going to spoil the semi's or finals.

Where there's an obvious arm around the throat a yellow is fine, but when an arm 'slips'across the neck because the tackler is moving downwards a penalty should be sufficient.

Have you seen some of these necks, you could whack them with a lamppost and the lamppost would come off second best. What happens to necks in a collapsed scrum is far more dangerous yet ...


Faf - does he not know anything else but box kick ? I thought it was perhaps the game plan for some reason but when he was replaced by Jantjies he didn't box kick once.


Finally - what are the odds on England beating the All Blacks and if we do beat Wales which would we rather play ?
 
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Something different than wheeling out some fat politician or businessman I guess when hading out trophies;

 

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Faf - does he not know anything else but box kick ? I thought it was perhaps the game plan for some reason but when he was replaced by Jantjies he didn't box kick once...

While we're over here hating on Faf, the rest of the rugby watching world decided he was man of the match.
 

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Not hating on Faf, just not sure 100% predictability is a good thing, and not sure how it helps us to kick possession away every time we win a scrum.
 

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A few comments...

There's a danger that the focus on high tackles is going to spoil the semi's or finals.

Where there's an obvious arm around the throat a yellow is fine, but when an arm 'slips'across the neck because the tackler is moving downwards a penalty should be sufficient.

Have you seen some of these necks, you could whack them with a lamppost and the lamppost would come off second best. What happens to necks in a collapsed scrum is far more dangerous yet ...


Faf - does he not know anything else but box kick ? I thought it was perhaps the game plan for some reason but when he was replaced by Jantjies he didn't box kick once.


Finally - what are the odds on England beating the All Blacks and if we do beat Wales which would we rather play ?

Technically England looks to be the best side IMHO. The All Blacks are the most enterprising and adaptive side which makes them extremely dangerous, especially having playmakers in close to every combination.

Many say the Springboks scored more tries in the pool phases, but New Zealand and England skipped on their last pool round.

The Springboks I believe Rassie took what the Springboks does culturally and traditionally the best and tuned it to be RWC ready. My problem with the Springboks is that the backline seems a bit individual in play. We go through the phases, but it lacks cohesion in the backline. It is okay when the winger gets the ball because that is the player you put through to the goal line, but the best cohesion in this RWC happened when we had a 'loose' player backing and or supporting the wingers.

Kolisi, du Toit, Snyman, all had phenomenal backline plays in this competition. As always, I believe our issue is with the centre pairings, but not the centres per se.

When people criticise the box kicks, they should have Rassie take the blame because that is our gameplan he and this consultants and assistants designed and implemented. Players execute.

England will easier break our brutality down than the Kiwis, but the Kiwis will starve us.
 

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Not hating on Faf, just not sure 100% predictability is a good thing, and not sure how it helps us to kick possession away every time we win a scrum.
Not his decision to kick. Anybody who has watched more than two matches of test rugby knows that territory is far more important than possession. Maybe you don't like the game plan (fair enough), but then blame the coach not the players.
 
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