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Werfetter

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No idea at this point, but way too much, it is really expensive. Mostly because of shipping but also because of things like PTFE wire which is just really hard to get and really expensive (like R1000 for the wiring of my printer, cable chain only, the rest use silicone wire).


Both. I specifically ordered the components they recommended. Some people order locally but IMO it isn't worth it because if anything is off-spec you'll get a worse product and spend a lot of time trying to figure out what is wrong.

In addition to what they recommended I'm using
Pheatus Dragon HF but I recommend you get Revo Voron instead or if sourcing that is a problem Pheatus Rapido
I bought my Acrylic panels locally, cut by Maizey's (R800 for everything)

I spent nearly a month just searching for everything because some of the shipping options in the build guide were just too expensive.
Thus ended up getting most of it from Amazon.com

The things I didn't get from Amazon were:
Frame, Bed heater, Bed and Linear rails (Robotdigg as per build guide for that, do not skip on the rails, you are f#cking yourself if you do that and you cannot trust Amazon listings, they are 3rd party sellers and they sell junk)
The frame I got from Misumi, the bed and heater Magicpheonix.xyz
You need PTFE wire which is insanely expensive and that I got from TME.eu (including the connectors for Micro-fit)

Self sourcing doesn't save you any money, in fact it works out far more expensive. If you want to have a known budget and save yourself time, get it from Magicpheonix.xyz and then buy the acrylic locally (acrylic from magicpheonix is insanely overpriced). Btw. the fact that self sourcing costs more is a well known fact. During all this you should join the Voron discord because you likely will need during some steps.

EDIT: Honestly this was not a joke to source. Unless you are really good at that (I am because I buy online and I buy really obscure things all the time), you should really go with a kit. Also I'm very experienced with electronics so I was perfectly comfortable crimping my own wires (and already had quality tools for that). Again if you haven't crimped wires before, I sort of think you should think about buying a loom. (Linneo harness)
Thanks for all the detail. I have been drooling over these for a while but the thought of self-sourcing has put me off just enough that I havent even tried. I have looked at the kits available on AliExpress but I just dont trust those suppliers enough to fork out that kind of money on cheap parts.

Looking at the kit they have one Magicphoenix (standard kit because it looks like the custom kit seems to be "out of stock") entire kit is priced at ~$1400. Think you spent about that? Just roughly?
 

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Looking at the kit they have one Magicphoenix (standard kit because it looks like the custom kit seems to be "out of stock") entire kit is priced at ~$1400. Think you spent about that? Just roughly?
More than that, probably like R10k above that I would guess. So yeah, totally overspent. I didn't think it was going to be so expensive. But by the time I spent $1400 I'd gotten so many parts that it was either stop and lose bunch of money for nothing or keep going.

I have 350mm however which I do think is generally a bit more.

I will say this, I'm an avid DIYer, so I have a LOT of stuff I want to make out of plastic (not like toys and models and things). The Ender 3 was just not suitable for me. Printing ABS with it was incredible hard work and unreliable and I just don't have time to waste on that (my time is worth more to me than that). With this Voron 2.4 you click print, it uses a probe to calculate the bed to probe offset. Then it uses a z-endstop to calculate the nozzle to probe offset, then calculates it all for you and off it goes printing. I just click print and wait for it to finish
 
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Printing the spool box thing from earlier in the thread on a Voron 2.4


Total print time was 2 hours 40 minutes, not too bad I thought.
Vibration noise is because the back panel doesn't have foam tape on yet so it vibrates :p
 
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Here is a fun print for those of you with a sweet tooth.

The kids really liked the candy dispenser that's designed to fit the Nutella glass jar. They also make nice gifts. Nutella is a bit pricey so I remixed the base to fit our local knockoff (ChocNut Spread).

 

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More than that, probably like R10k above that I would guess. So yeah, totally overspent. I didn't think it was going to be so expensive. But by the time I spent $1400 I'd gotten so many parts that it was either stop and lose bunch of money for nothing or keep going.

I have 350mm however which I do think is generally a bit more.

I will say this, I'm an avid DIYer, so I have a LOT of stuff I want to make out of plastic (not like toys and models and things). The Ender 3 was just not suitable for me. Printing ABS with it was incredible hard work and unreliable and I just don't have time to waste on that (my time is worth more to me than that). With this Voron 2.4 you click print, it uses a probe to calculate the bed to probe offset. Then it uses a z-endstop to calculate the nozzle to probe offset, then calculates it all for you and off it goes printing. I just click print and wait for it to finish
The $1400 price tag is for the 350 so worth looking at their kit is what I am hearing.
 

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ok. then you need to read the first link I sent you closely especially the initial setup and levelling portions - follow the instructions precisely.

There is a setting when you do the 'base' template in Cura where you specify 'skirt', 'rim', 'raft' or 'none' for the beginning of the print.

It's worth spending the time watching a few youtube videos on 'getting started with cura' - will save you many a headache.

See links below videos I found worthwhile



Thanks for all the advice - I leveled bed according to those instructions, and also changed my Z-offset.
That seems to have resolved the problem.
Now I'll start migrating to Cura
 

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Yup, cura 5 with the arc welding plugin is brilliant. Some real nice improvements there for fine detail.
Then you just need octo print on top of that.
 

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Here is a fun print for those of you with a sweet tooth.

The kids really liked the candy dispenser that's designed to fit the Nutella glass jar. They also make nice gifts. Nutella is a bit pricey so I remixed the base to fit our local knockoff (ChocNut Spread).

I actually bought the big Nutella specifically for this awhile back - just waiting for it to finish.
 

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I see there is another flexi print free for a few hours. And yes, I am a Flexi Factory fan!

 

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Yup, cura 5 with the arc welding plugin is brilliant. Some real nice improvements there for fine detail.
Then you just need octo print on top of that.

I have octo set up on a spare rpi3 - need to connect it to the Ender still
 

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Here is a fun print for those of you with a sweet tooth.

The kids really liked the candy dispenser that's designed to fit the Nutella glass jar. They also make nice gifts. Nutella is a bit pricey so I remixed the base to fit our local knockoff (ChocNut Spread).

Do you know if the jacobs coffee jars will fit?
Those are quite plentiful and doesnt take long to empty
 

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Here is a fun print for those of you with a sweet tooth.

The kids really liked the candy dispenser that's designed to fit the Nutella glass jar. They also make nice gifts. Nutella is a bit pricey so I remixed the base to fit our local knockoff (ChocNut Spread).


What did you use to do the remix?
 

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I see there is another flexi print free for a few hours. And yes, I am a Flexi Factory fan!

thanks. how do you know when they go on 'sale'?
 

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Thanks for all the advice - I leveled bed according to those instructions, and also changed my Z-offset.
That seems to have resolved the problem.
Now I'll start migrating to Cura
Nice, I had the same issue when I started. Got a lot of flack in this thread for leveling the bed

I actually ordered a CR touch today. Can't wait to get it.
 

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No idea. The ChocNut jar has this weird non standard thread. Must be to keep manufacturing costs down



Tinkercad

Thanks.

I use Tinkercad as well. Will have to delve into it to work out how to change / design a threaded piece.
 

rodga

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OK nevermind. Was I checkers earlier and just bought one lol.

They have the normal one with red lid that has 5% hazelnuts. The is one with a white lid that has 13% but only in the small jar and almost double the price.
 
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