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valiente

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I read some folks in the thread complaining about the speed and print issues, recommended hardware version of pi?
If you simply want to remotely control your printer:
Pi Zero W

If you want to Remotely control and stream cameras:
Pi 3 B

If you want to go Balls to the Wall, Stream, Time lapses, AI Learning and run a few dozen extensions:
Pi 4 B
 

xrapidx

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I read some folks in the thread complaining about the speed and print issues, recommended hardware version of pi?

Most of the issues are plugin related. I'm using a old Pi3 I repurposed with no issues for months now.

RE: Plugins - I've disabled two recently (WLED/PSU Control) - it seems as soon as Octoprint can't contact them over the network - **** hits the fan with printing.
 

xrapidx

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Wont do this one again, multiple parts failed multiple parts, with varying degrees of supports. Not sure how its done without supports.

Came out VERY rough at 0.2mm.
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Thor

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Should I get the creality

Ender 3 v2

Or

Ender 6

Or

CR-5 Pro H

I am leaning very heavily towards the CR-5 Pro H thinking being if I actually do end up liking 3D printing for all my IoT stuff then I'm going to wish I had a proper printer.
 

valiente

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Should I get the creality

Ender 3 v2

Or

Ender 6

Or

CR-5 Pro H

I am leaning very heavily towards the CR-5 Pro H thinking being if I actually do end up liking 3D printing for all my IoT stuff then I'm going to wish I had a proper printer.
For a beginner, I'd definitely recommend the Ender 3 v2.
  • Extremely well documented - Probably the most used Printer (Ender 3)
  • A billion add-ons and Improvements you can play around with
  • Super easy to troubleshoot
  • Can print very good quality if tuned correctly

Both the Ender 6 and CR-5 Pro are Core XY Printers.
The Creality implementation isn't great with the bed only supported on a single side
Over time and if printing something heavy, the bed could start sagging downwards since it is only supported from one side
There are fixes for this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3397666

In theory, the Core XY printers can print a LOT faster, since you not moving the heavy bed in the X or Y direction.
But again, for a beginner, speed is the last thing you should be concerned about.


Also Price, all three these printers are in different Price Categories:
R5999 for Ender 3 V2
R9999 for Ender 6
Can't find local price on Ender-5 Pro H but probably R20 000
 

karnuffel

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Should I get the creality

Ender 3 v2

Or

Ender 6

Or

CR-5 Pro H

I am leaning very heavily towards the CR-5 Pro H thinking being if I actually do end up liking 3D printing for all my IoT stuff then I'm going to wish I had a proper printer.
I absolutely love my ender 6. I think the Ender 3 is a great start because there is a massive amount of info and guides online
 

Kosmik

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Gents, could someone give a quick explanation on nozzles? I see the ender 3 has out the box 0.4mm, and DIY has 0.3, 0.25 respectably at a various ranges for sale. My current understanding is that the nozzle could be deemed similar to the resolution aspect of a print? My question is, when and where to use and secondly, doesn't the smaller apertute impact the flow rate? Would that not need to be adjusted/set?

Also with the price range in nozzles from R20odd to R600, the main differance I see is coatings and durability, does this genuinely make such a huge differance? The jumps are from like R20 to R200 to R600?
 

howardb

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Gents, could someone give a quick explanation on nozzles? I see the ender 3 has out the box 0.4mm, and DIY has 0.3, 0.25 respectably at a various ranges for sale. My current understanding is that the nozzle could be deemed similar to the resolution aspect of a print? My question is, when and where to use and secondly, doesn't the smaller apertute impact the flow rate? Would that not need to be adjusted/set?

Also with the price range in nozzles from R20odd to R600, the main differance I see is coatings and durability, does this genuinely make such a huge differance? The jumps are from like R20 to R200 to R600?
Not really on the resolution thing imo. The layer height is more resolution related, with 0.1mm being finer than 0.2mm etc.

Smaller nozzle sizes theoretically allow smaller detailed prints to be done. I tried a 0.2mm nozzle as wanted to print some small detailed items, endless issues; clogging mostly using PLA. Went back to 0.4mm and tuned my printer and slicer settings properly, no issues. Not ideal for small items though.

And for small detailed items, rather go resin. Works much better.

Can't comment on the pricing. A big standard nozzle is fine, cheap to replace. Steel nozzles also have issues, depending on your printer calibration.
Dumped the Micro Swiss nozzles and back to cheap brass ones.
 

howardb

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Wanted to add that if the nozzle size is changed, flow and e-steps may have to be recalibrated.

Tried a 0.8mm nozzle as well and had to do this (and bump up the nozzle temp during the print)
 

Kosmik

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Hmmm looking at the whole octoprint thing and I really like what this chap did

This timestamp =>

I note he didn't use a connected pi cam so my question to those folks who have octo, I assume can slap a cheap usb webcam on the side? Would it support a smart cam like a sonoff? ie: does it need to be a direct connection or can it be linked? What did you folks use if you went with this? The cable cam or an external?

Some really cool mod ideas and easy prints.
 

saor

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Gents, could someone give a quick explanation on nozzles? I see the ender 3 has out the box 0.4mm, and DIY has 0.3, 0.25 respectably at a various ranges for sale. My current understanding is that the nozzle could be deemed similar to the resolution aspect of a print? My question is, when and where to use and secondly, doesn't the smaller apertute impact the flow rate? Would that not need to be adjusted/set?

Also with the price range in nozzles from R20odd to R600, the main differance I see is coatings and durability, does this genuinely make such a huge differance? The jumps are from like R20 to R200 to R600?
Well I'm a lady but I'll answer anyway.

We have a printer that's permanently got a 0.25 nozzle on it running PLA. For smaller and especially thin-walled parts it's really nice, and one of the biggest advantages is that support structure breaks away like a dream. Even little cavities where a 0.4 would dump down some tricky to remove support, the 0.25 stuff just pops out. And layer height: Using a 0.4 nozzle at 0.1 or 0.08 layer height doesn't make a huge difference, the 0.25 at 0.06 or 0.08 layer height is noticeably different (better) to a 0.4 nozzle at 0.06 or 0.08. Never had issues printing PLA, gets quite tricky printing other materials. Suppose some of this might just be printer specific tho.

If you've got a need for more functional parts with finer details it's worth experimenting with, especially if you need the bit of flex/give that an FDM printed part gives.
 
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B-1

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Just some updates on my VzBot. Its been printing for a week and a bit. I used a pi zero with klipper but its barely keeping up and can't calibrate input shaping with the adxl345 so needs a proper pi. I ordered one from RS but they changed delivery date to december so I'm trying to cancel that one and ordered one from pishop. Then I still need to order all the panels for the enclosure/lid and a few other finishing items.


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Kosmik

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What are you building?
I picked up a base Ender 3 for cheap a few weeks back, still in customs but getting the little upgrades together so aluminum extruder, springs, BL Touch and this is the upgraded board ( SKR 3 E v2.0 ) for quieter running, some steppers to do lighting etc, dampners , capricorn tubing , glass bed and some nozzles ( .3 and .2 ).

Two boxes of filament are black PLA, red PETG and I have white PETG incoming with the main shipment as well. Hopefully everything gets here by the long weekend. Also that it all doesn't get here TOO much before then or I won't get any work done,
 

B-1

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I picked up a base Ender 3 for cheap a few weeks back, still in customs but getting the little upgrades together so aluminum extruder, springs, BL Touch and this is the upgraded board ( SKR 3 E v2.0 ) for quieter running, some steppers to do lighting etc, dampners , capricorn tubing , glass bed and some nozzles ( .3 and .2 ).

Two boxes of filament are black PLA, red PETG and I have white PETG incoming with the main shipment as well. Hopefully everything gets here by the long weekend. Also that it all doesn't get here TOO much before then or I won't get any work done,

Sounds like fun. Send some more pics when you get the rest.
 

bar1

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Any idea where I can find Translucent pla? Preferably white, I see Rs have bit a bit pricy
 
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