5 month planned outage for Koeberg Unit 2 to begin soon

[BeerIsNotGood...]

Sure, maybe you're right, if you have qualified and experienced people running them for the long term and keeping them properly maintained. Consider the consequences of allowing a nuclear power plant to become run down, or of an error being made in running it, compared to the same thing happening to a wind farm or solar plant. Consider also the cost of not only building a nuclear power plant, but also the cost of maintaining it and the huge cost of decommissioning it when it reaches end of life, something which cannot be avoided safely. Finally, consider that radioactive waste can remain dangerous to humans and the environment for thousands of years and tell me again how green it is.

How green is solar again??

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

And some people here think we should be building more nuclear power plants

Why not?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

This is an interesting read if you haven't seen it yet:

NUCLEAR REVAMP: R20bn life extension of Koeberg power station poses significant risks for South Africa

Preparations are under way for the replacement of the six steam generators at Eskom’s 1,840MW Koeberg nuclear power station, in what South Africa’s national electricity utility says is the most complex project undertaken at the nuclear facility since it was commissioned some 36 years ago in 1985.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

By 2024, it wouldn't be that difficult to add 2GW of renewable to the grid if Coal Mantashe would just allow it to be built, e.g. Germany is adding 5.2GW in 2022, South Africa could do it way more easily as higher capacity factors for solar and wind. This is without taking 2023/2024 into account, or that it seems quite a few storage mechanisms are coming into play now, with test projects like the concrete storage, key LFP patents expire this year (a lot already expired end of last year in the US, the rest in EU this year, these patents would allow dropping cobalt from LFP so should be a price drop and easier to produce), etc.

Stop reading right there...

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Problem is that we don't need power 24x7
We need power when we need it, and half the day we generally don't, as most people are sleeping.

 

[Academic]

When is the loadshedding starting? I told everyone last week already. Need to justify a R80k backup investment.

 

[Lupus]

When is the loadshedding starting? I told everyone last week already. Need to justify a R80k backup investment.

When demand outstripes supply?

 

[Lupus]

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Sssh this is the new world order, you're only allowed electricity between the hours of 5am to 5pm, after that it's bed time.

 

[PaulMurkin]

When is the loadshedding starting? I told everyone last week already. Need to justify a R80k backup investment.

As soon as the heatwaves extend to the rest of the country and people grab fans and aircons like their lives depend on it, and not just cooking in Cape Town.

 

[itareanlnotani]

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I dunno,but possibly, you could look at the load that Eskom publishes and compare day and say, night.

Might be illuminating.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

I dunno,but possibly, you could look at the load that Eskom publishes and compare day and say, night.

Might be illuminating.

I think you should just stop talking now....it's getting worse by the minute.

 

[Lupus]

I dunno,but possibly, you could look at the load that Eskom publishes and compare day and say, night.

Might be illuminating.

So the 18 to 19GW being used at night? I mean residential users are only 20%
So industry just stops at night???

 

[Johnatan56]

Stop reading right there...

Lol, a lot of Mantashe political support and money is based on the coal mines.

 

[Lupus]

Here's demand, notice that it never really drops below 20GW. So magically we stop using power somewhere in the day??

 

[C4Cat]

Why not?

Because we apparently don't have the expertise and experience to safely maintain our current single nuclear power station, why would you want to build more?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Because we apparently don't have the expertise and experience to safely maintain our current single nuclear power station, why would you want to build more?

Says who?

 

[C4Cat]

Says who?

Says the article I was responding to, post 10

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

So the 18 to 19GW being used at night? I mean residential users are only 20%
So industry just stops at night???

You must be dreaming that usage...since you are asleep all night and subsequently do not need electricity.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Sure, maybe you're right, if you have qualified and experienced people running them for the long term and keeping them properly maintained. Consider the consequences of allowing a nuclear power plant to become run down, or of an error being made in running it, compared to the same thing happening to a wind farm or solar plant. Consider also the cost of not only building a nuclear power plant, but also the cost of maintaining it and the huge cost of decommissioning it when it reaches end of life, something which cannot be avoided safely. Finally, consider that radioactive waste can remain dangerous to humans and the environment for thousands of years and tell me again how green it is.

There are MANY people world wide that can safely run and maintain Koeberg. Our BEEE policies however drive them away.

Koeberg is by no means "run down"...that is just alarmist BS spread by the anti-nuclear crazies in CPT.

Sell Koeberg to an IPP and let them subcontract the management and maintenance to an international company.

There are 100's of ways to do it...but the ANC is in the way as usual, and the alarmists capitalize on that.

 

[C4Cat]

There are MANY people world wide that can safely run and maintain Koeberg. Our BEEE policies however drive them away.

Koeberg is by no means "run down"...that is just alarmist BS spread by the anti-nuclear crazies in CPT.

Sell Koeberg to an IPP and let them subcontract the management and maintenance to an international company.

There are 100's of ways to do it...but the ANC is in the way as usual, and the alarmists capitalize on that.

If you think multiple nuclear power plants will be safely maintained in SA over the next 50 - 100 years, with nuclear waste being safely disposed of (for thousands of years into the future) and then think they will be properly decommissioned when their lifespan is over (unlike koeberg) at huge cost, then you have a lot more faith in this country and the world than I do.

 

[boboudts]

Racist much?

Twaddle....fix your chip and face the truth and the reality of the anc's incompetence in full view accross our country