52% of South Africans don’t want Covid vaccine, despite SA securing initial batch

Grand Inquisitor

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They will sing a different tune once you won’t be able to work, travel or do much else burocratically important without it. I’m not worried about the anti-vaxxers.
 

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And the Russians recommend no alcohol consumption for two weeks before, between dose and for 2 weeks after.
Going to be a dry period for many.
So that means another booze ban once they procure it and start jabbing then? The SA form of “recommend”
 

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If you are religious or against abortions then this particular vaccine from SII is not for you. It is made from genetically modified kidney cells from aborted/terminated foetuses.


The pope said it was cool, and he should know ....
 

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I never took flu shot ever before (just to see if body copes up without it) but I am pretty sure I will take covid vaccine. That is gonna be a while though.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist in any way and I have had all my vaccines to date, but I had the flu shot once due to the recommendation and I had never been so sick in my life.

I know that the virus is weakened/dead and the odds of catching something else at the same time is high, but the area I had received it was so inflamed and the symptoms I had gotten all seemed in line with the flu, that I wondered if I had not weakened my immune system a bit by giving it something additional to deal with.

Still pro-vaccines, but I can understand how people relate bad experiences to these kinds of things
 

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist in any way and I have had all my vaccines to date, but I had the flu shot once due to the recommendation and I had never been so sick in my life.

I know that the virus is weakened/dead and the odds of catching something else at the same time is high, but the area I had received it was so inflamed and the symptoms I had gotten all seemed in line with the flu, that I wondered if I had not weakened my immune system a bit by giving it something additional to deal with.

Still pro-vaccines, but I can understand how people relate bad experiences to these kinds of things
What you experienced seems consistent with known side effects. Tbh, I will probably never take flu vaccine as I have this false belief that I am fairly immune to it after years of eating street food in various parts of India. LOL.


Some people report having mild side effects after flu vaccination. The most common side effects from flu shots are soreness, redness, tenderness or swelling where the shot was given. Low-grade fever, headache and muscle aches also may occur. If these reactions occur, they usually begin soon after vaccination and last 1-2 days.
 

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist in any way and I have had all my vaccines to date, but I had the flu shot once due to the recommendation and I had never been so sick in my life.

I'm in the same boat with the flu shots, thing is I tried it for three seasons and got horribly sick each time. Since I stopped never had really bad flu again I couldn't self medicate away.

Not antivax and will take covid vaccine, flu shots will never see me again though.
 

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What you experienced seems consistent with known side effects. Tbh, I will probably never take flu vaccine as I have this false belief that I am fairly immune to it after years of eating street food in various parts of India. LOL.


That is what I thought, I was prepared for side effects but what followed was a week long fever so bad that made me suspect I may lose my job. It was like everything in my body decided to try and kill me at once - fever blisters, mouth ulcers, pink eye, middle-ear infection. It felt like every antibody in my body stopped what they were doing and went only after the vaccine.
 

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My only concerns relate to the side effects of these vaccines. Most never get publicly used in their first 3 - 5 years. They go through rigorous testing before commercial use. The current 'certified' vaccines have been rushed through certification. Otherwise, let the skeptics bypass. I'll take it.
 

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Good, more for me as i'm further down the list.

I don't agree with anti-vaxxers (even if COVID-19 is the first vaccine you refuse to take) - but the freedoms we all want to enjoy mean people must have the right to choose not to take the vaccine if they don't want it.

You talking to people who refused to wear the mask because it’s just the flu, who believe alcohol should be freely available albeit hospital beds aren’t available for people if filled with alcohol related trauma.

My point is.. while we will say it’s science fact vs fiction, reality is that they getting hyped up by their support base on fb, twtr, etc. This means it’s more ideological and political .. a little digging and you find it’s the far right & left with some religious twists thrown in. You wasting you time is the point.
 

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My only concerns relate to the side effects of these vaccines. Most never get publicly used in their first 3 - 5 years. They go through rigorous testing before commercial use. The current 'certified' vaccines have been rushed through certification. Otherwise, let the skeptics bypass. I'll take it.

I’d be weary of the phizer and moderna for this reason along with wondering about efficacy when I know how few ULT cold chains are available in the country and the big drama in developed countries trying to meet these.. the Oxford and J&J I’d happily get ASAP.
 

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My only concern is this growing push of mandatory Covid vaccination. Allows those who are at risk to receive a vaccine en-masse; it's a win-win.
I'll take the vaccine for the same reasons I take an annual flu-shot: I don't want to get ill.

That said, socialism is better and therefore the vaccine will most probably forced onto everyone, with the corporates at the forefront of pushing the issue in support of the ANC-looting.
 

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aka the majority of south africans are poorly informed and/or poorly educated and/or stupid.

There is really not much way around that conclusion.
 

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That is what I thought, I was prepared for side effects but what followed was a week long fever so bad that made me suspect I may lose my job. It was like everything in my body decided to try and kill me at once - fever blisters, mouth ulcers, pink eye, middle-ear infection. It felt like every antibody in my body stopped what they were doing and went only after the vaccine.
And that is exactly why some people refuse to take covid vaccines, they suspect it will simply be a rerun of the flu vaccine scam.

If you tell somebody that a flu vaccine makes you THAT sick they keep throwing experts at you and demanding you ignore your "anecdotal" evidence because it's impossible for a flu shot to do that..... which incidentally is EXACTLY what will happen when/if covid vaccines start causing bad side effects.
 

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My only concerns relate to the side effects of these vaccines. Most never get publicly used in their first 3 - 5 years. They go through rigorous testing before commercial use. The current 'certified' vaccines have been rushed through certification. Otherwise, let the skeptics bypass. I'll take it.
Where did you hear this? This is completely news to me. Oxford trials started way back in April 2020.

 
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