76.5% of South Africans want a referendum on the dealth penalty

What is your opinion on the death penalty? Should it come into effect again?

  • It will bring down violent crime! So YES!

    Votes: 14 48.3%
  • It will work, but I don't trust this government with it! So NO!

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • No it won't work! No!

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Total voters
    29

ToxicBunny

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Something that was mentioned a few posts ago, that does raise an interesting issue.....

Previously (ok and granted this was in the "good" old days, and thats in HUGE inverted commas cos they weren't good), but if a person came into your house.... the issue of protecting yourself was fairly simple if i remember correctly.... now its no longer an issue of protecting yourself, you are basically not free to protect yourself in your own home anymore, and that for me is a HUGE worry... my home is supposed to be my safe-haven, and nowadays its not... its just the local shopping mall for opportunistic passers-by.... That is an issue that has to be looked at I think, along with the issue of the police and the procedures that arise after a shootout should they injure/kill a criminal.

Basically lately it seems that criminals have more protection than normal citizens and thats a very dangerous position to be in as a country, plus of course we have Mr Yengeni, who is a convicted felon, being escorted to prison like a Hero, that kind of attitude also needs to change for things to start getting to some sense of normality.
 

telkomsuig

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This such a pointless debate.... the constitution safe guards criminal rights and it won't be changed by the present government end of story.
 

ToxicBunny

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Unfortunately, as much as it pains me to admit it, telkomsuig is right. Our government in some wierd twisted way has a vested interest in keep the "status quo".... mostly the bmw's and mercs on order that they need to pay for.....
 
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kingrob

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Jip, we're basically on our own now.

Be VERY careful if police rocks up at your house, even if they tell you they're investigating a crime - phone the station first, but please do not let them into your house.

We are now at the point where even the police are criminals, robbing houses -in uniform, with a police vehicle.
 

Lord Anubis

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Life sentences should be just that...prison for life but in the most awful circumstances. Prisons should also be designed so that they are away from the population and impossible to escape from (ala Alcatraz x 100%). ...however, prisoners should be given the option themselves, to either end it themselves or have it done for them by the state. If a prsioner choses to die then he should be allowed to make that choice. In other words prison should be so awful they decide to check out by themselves.

My two cents!
 

noxibox

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...however, prisoners should be given the option themselves, to either end it themselves or have it done for them by the state. If a prsioner choses to die then he should be allowed to make that choice. In other words prison should be so awful they decide to check out by themselves.
South African prisons are no holiday camp. And if you want to get killed in there it is really easy.
 
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