78% of Grade 4 learners cannot read, but the government wants to teach them programming

Nerfherder said:
There are programming applications for kids that don't require reading.

Have a look at Scratch.

But yes - basics first and most of these schools wont have access to computers.
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I had a look at Scratch's video and then this:

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Why are people so obsessed with LBGTQ+ things and kids?

Video:

 
Will never please the privileged.

Teaching them programming is amazing and I know friends that could speak Java before they could speak proper English
 
RedViking said:
Will never please the privileged.

Teaching them programming is amazing and I know friends that could speak Java before they could speak proper English
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I actually improved both my Mathematics and English levels by learning to code.

Then again, I know Java programmers who cannot explain what "public static void main(string[ ]) args" actually means. Then again Java is also syntactically dense
 
As what the education inspector told the JP teachers in my mother's school after changing all the failed black students grades to pass. "If you ask them where the toilet and then are able to point it out, you must pass them"
 
Polymathic said:
As what the education inspector told the JP teachers in my mother's school after changing all the failed black students grades to pass. "If you ask them where the toilet and then are able to point it out, you must pass them"
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Story time already?
 
I will say that programming for a company and working with existing software is not exactly straight forward as you do need to develop your comprehension and be able to understand the uses of said application as well.
 
Being able to code, but unable to understand the contract you signed, and the tax documents you need to complete? Furthermore, reading through a spec document and abstracting future concepts and requirements would be impossible.

Guys, this is truly a terrible idea for shaping a robust human.
 
John_Phoenix said:
Being able to code, but unable to understand the contract you signed, and the tax documents you need to complete? Furthermore, reading through a spec document and abstracting future concepts and requirements would be impossible.

Guys, this is truly a terrible idea for shaping a robust human.
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Some literate people don't understand contracts and tax documents.
 
thechamp said:
The assumption being that people remain illiterate all their lives because the could not read at 10yrs?
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Deb jobs require more than just being able to code. The quality of education and its associated stats have gotten worse over the years. Nothing indicates it will improve. This means we will have tons of 30% people around. Being able to code means absolutely nothing if you can't read, write and communicate properly. If our education system was on the up and up, I'd say, sure, go for it, but the reality is we are nowhere near where we should be. I'm not opposed to this but in light of our current issues in the country, this seems rather silly.

As others have said, you crawl before you walk and you walk before you run.
 
mercurial said:
Jobs require more than just being able to code. The quality of education and its associated stats have gotten worsen over the years. Nothing indicates it will improve. This means we will have tons of 30% people around. Being able to code means absolutely nothing if you can't read, write and communicate properly. If our education system was on the up and up, I'd say, sure, go for it, but the reality is we are nowhere near where we should be. I'm not opposed to this but in light of our current issues in the country, this seems rather silly.

As others have said, you crawl before you walk and you walk before you run.
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True and jobs requires more than just being literate. I was just pointing out that it's premature to talk about jobs and illiteracy in relation to a ten year old child.
 
Also, what is this obsession with getting everyone to code? Our country needs skills of all types. Absolutely nothing wrong with being a plumber or an electrician. Coding is not for everyone. Learn what the kids are good at and help them excel in that instead of forcing coding on everyone because it's cool.
 
mercurial said:
Also, what is this obsession with getting everyone to code? Our country needs skills of all types. Absolutely nothing wrong with being a plumber or an electrician. Coding is not for everyone. Learn what the kids are good at and help them excel in that instead of forcing coding on everyone because it's cool.
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I don't know about forcing things on children but I am not opposed to kids learning coding as a subject in school, it's a useful skill to have and I am sure we can find one subject to drop in favour of coding, I think they will enjoy it even more than some of the subjects.

They will grow up and decide to do what they want, I don't think learning coding will prevent us from having plumbers and electricians as much as learning life orientation doesn't.
 
thechamp said:
I don't know about forcing things on children but I am not opposed to kids learning coding as a subject in school, it's a useful skill to have and I am sure we can find one subject to drop in favour of coding, I think they will enjoy it even more than some of the subjects.

They will grow up and decide to do what they want, I don't think learning coding will prevent us from having plumbers and electricians as much as learning life orientation doesn't.
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They need to expose kids to all sorts of trades, not just coding. Just sounds like a marketing thing/fad to say, "Hey we teach our kids to code!"
 
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