9/11 Debate: Watch as Popular Mechanics debunk LooseChange in person

LoneGunman

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or as an alternative,

first read the debunking of the popular mechanics article here:
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm

Then try the film dealing with a number of the 911 families and their fight for uncovering the truth of 911 - called PRESS FOR TRUTH':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IHgFwYeB-Y

Then watch the very useful film via Google, called '911 Mysteries' - high budget film, looking specifically at the concept of demolitions being used in WTC on 911:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911

Then to see visuals as well as the rumbling of explosions, caught on camera from a different angle to most of the TV networks coverage - '911 Eyewitness':
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911

And watch some historical examples of prior State Terrorism. 'TERROR STORM'
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=terrorstorm
 

vespax

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Popular Mechanics = Mag with strange looking Military subs/tanks/airplanes on the cover in the doctors waiting room.

I always thought it was part sci-fi. ;)
 
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LoneGunman you've immediately pegged me on the back foot - not because I can't debate but because I don't have the bandwidth to download all these videos (911 Mysteries - 1H 31min!!!!).

I will read the first link provided though as well as finding info about the documentaries. From what I can gather though is that the 911 Mysteries doesn't implicate anyone in particular but rather asks questions unlike LC.

I will give a response to your post once I've gathered enough evidence.

Just remember because you can't prove a conspiracy theory wrong, doesn't mean that it is right.
 

LoneGunman

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re "Just remember because you can't prove a conspiracy theory wrong, doesn't mean that it is right."

Well, thats the stance of the official government explanation for 911 in a nutshell - they have yet to prove their conspiracy that some guys with boxcutters managed to do everything they're being blamed for.

As regards minimal bandwidth - well, as I've got unlimited b/w - if you need a private send of any or all of these movies, PM me and maybe we can work things out..

A good starting point for utterly serious and academic focus on 911, is http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

And the two leading articles which cover the first layer of anomalies, are:

"Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" -by Steven E. Jones, Ph.D. (1.2meg pdf)
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf

and

"The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True" David Ray Griffin, Ph.D.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=GRI20060129&articleId=1846
 

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Popular Mechanics? Bwahahahah :D

Maybe they should have applied some "popular mechanics" when NORAD took the day off - and 3 buildings fell to earth - defying gravity - in exactly the same way (Never before happened, uh, must be "Popular Mechanics.") Uh, duh - maybe they did apply "popular mechanics" - when one little old jet - melted one of the world's largest buildings (x2 - oh, or was that 3 or maybe 4 - well gee, we'll never know - because they won't release the tapes of one most densely secure buildings in the world - covered by cameras - Oooh ya, the parking garage entrance video... Bwahahah :D What is wrong with this picture (thump, thump!)
 

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Popular Mechanics? Bwahahahah :D

Maybe they should have applied some "popular mechanics" when NORAD took the day off - and 3 buildings fell to earth - defying gravity - in exactly the same way (Never before happened, uh, must be "Popular Mechanics.") Uh, duh - maybe they did apply "popular mechanics" - when one little old jet - melted one of the world's largest buildings (x2 - oh, or was that 3 or maybe 4 - well gee, we'll never know - because they won't release the tapes of one most densely secure buildings in the world - covered by cameras - Oooh ya, the parking garage entrance video... Bwahahah :D What is wrong with this picture (thump, thump!)

Eh? Which 3 buildings? And if they were defying gravity, surely these buildings would not have fallen?
 

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So watched the interview and nothing was really debunked now there are just more questions. I heard nothing concrete form P/M just they spoke to experts. Also why is so much footage and reports not being made available to the public.
 

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:eek: another 9/11 thread.

one day the truth will come out.... and we will all be horrified.
 

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or as an alternative,

first read the debunking of the popular mechanics article here:
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm

Then try the film dealing with a number of the 911 families and their fight for uncovering the truth of 911 - called PRESS FOR TRUTH':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IHgFwYeB-Y

Then watch the very useful film via Google, called '911 Mysteries' - high budget film, looking specifically at the concept of demolitions being used in WTC on 911:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911

Then to see visuals as well as the rumbling of explosions, caught on camera from a different angle to most of the TV networks coverage - '911 Eyewitness':
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911

And watch some historical examples of prior State Terrorism. 'TERROR STORM'
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=terrorstorm


LoneGunman,

I have never subscribed to the conspiracy theories, but after watching half of the "911 Mystereries" I must admit I have a lot of questions...! There is some very obvious stuff in this video, that has never surfaced. I am watching the other half now, just a big file to download.
 

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ROFL maybe Popular Mechanics should stick to tank and car engines, and leave the physics to physicists.
 

Koos Custodiet

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:eek: another 9/11 thread.

one day the truth will come out.... and we will all be horrified.

That's what hey said about the Kennedy/Oswald fracas, and so far we're still
not quite sure what happened and we have no real idea *why*...

Koos
 

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ROFL maybe Popular Mechanics should stick to tank and car engines, and leave the physics to physicists.

That's exactly what they do. Rather than thumbsucking their own ideas about what happened, they went to the experts in the field, and got *their* opinions and research.

The Loose Change guys, on the other hand, have as their most credible expert a guy working for underwriters who is knowledgeable on water...and he's giving opinions on steel structures. Yeah, that's credible all right...
 

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For you conspiracy nuts: why don't you actually come out and state what *you* think happened, and back it up with appropriate physical facts. If you think a missile hit the Pentagon, say so, and provide video footage, photos of missile parts, explanations of where the missile came from, who provided it, and explanations for why there was an aircraft in the wreckage etc.
 

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For you conspiracy nuts: why don't you actually come out and state what *you* think happened, and back it up with appropriate physical facts. If you think a missile hit the Pentagon, say so, and provide video footage, photos of missile parts, explanations of where the missile came from, who provided it, and explanations for why there was an aircraft in the wreckage etc.
And open themselves up to the likes of, for the lack of a better classification, themselves? :eek:

Imagine the chaos and destruction brought about by all that circular logic. ;)
 
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ROFL maybe Popular Mechanics should stick to tank and car engines, and leave the physics to physicists.

Exactly!

Let's look at one of the more widely known 'conspiracy organizations': Scholars For Truth.

Here's the Wikipedia entry:

Critics observed that there were no structural engineers listed as members of the group - their website now lists only three structural engineers as members [5] and argue that the engineers involved with the scholars have little relevant work in the appropriate disciplines related to structural engineering or controlled demolitions. Critics also note that none of the research by the group members has yet to be published in any peer reviewed science journal.
More recently, former members Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds resigned from the association on August 23, 2006 criticizing both Prof. Jones and the Journal for 9/11 Studies. [6] A. Woodruff Miller - within Stephen Jones' own university Department - has argued that "without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims". Critics also noted that of the 139,000 members of the American Society of Civil Engineers, not one was a member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth; they now have just one American Society of Civil Engineers member, Joseph M. Phelps.
 

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For you conspiracy nuts: why don't you actually come out and state what *you* think happened, and back it up with appropriate physical facts. If you think a missile hit the Pentagon, say so, and provide video footage, photos of missile parts, explanations of where the missile came from, who provided it, and explanations for why there was an aircraft in the wreckage etc.

I used to think like you, but happened to have some time on my hands last night, and downloaded the video. I have an engineering background, and there is no conspiracies in this video, just a lot of very logical questions. If you have any understanding of structural engineering then makes an interesting case study. It is more than obvious there has been some form of cover up here, the questions is rather how deep the cover up goes.

Before going of the handle like you did above why don't you watch it, or if you don't want to use up your bandwidth, then take Lonegunman up on his offer and he will arrange for CD.

I am not going to waste my time discussing the merits of the video, but rather urge you just to take the time and watch it. There are so many obvious questions that beg answering it is almost scarry!
 
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