9 US states declare sovereignty

LazyLion

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UnUSA?

is this really true?

yes, it may certainly save some tones of dept, and then load all of the dept onto the shoulders of a few. What will happen to the few? EU?


I think that there is a russian guy who predicted this, he has also predicted the USSR.

But question remains here, is this complete or just hype?

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no, no, no... they are not going UnUSA. Don't read too much into this.

By asserting their sovereignty they are not saying they don't want to be part of the Union (they are not seceding).

They are simply saying that the federal government is dictating too much to them and taking too much from them. They want to Federal Government to cool it.
 

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a far right conservative news page is hardly what i would could relaible news , but thats my opinion , anyway for a the record i am a conservative liberla if yiou had to class me , i read a lot of stuff on worldnet in the past and its all a bunch of tinfoil hat fans

its not America breaking up its states saysing now to some ferderal issues the states are saying no to which they have in the past and will do in the future , nothing more , just a lot of hot air and empty heads , but america is not the only country with them
 

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no, no, no... they are not going UnUSA. Don't read too much into this.

By asserting their sovereignty they are not saying they don't want to be part of the Union (they are not seceding).

They are simply saying that the federal government is dictating too much to them and taking too much from them. They want to Federal Government to cool it.
Nicely put. (Re)asserting sovereignty is not secession. Just a reaffirmation of the terms of union and the respective rights of state iro federal government.
 

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a far right conservative news page is hardly what i would could relaible news , but thats my opinion , anyway for a the record i am a conservative liberla if yiou had to class me , i read a lot of stuff on worldnet in the past and its all a bunch of tinfoil hat fans

its not America breaking up its states saysing now to some ferderal issues the states are saying no to which they have in the past and will do in the future , nothing more , just a lot of hot air and empty heads , but america is not the only country with them

The sure lack of your skill to read the other 10 non related links paints a different picture imho :eek:

You selectively only singled out one single website out of a possible 11 that is there. Rather odd don't you think :p
 

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http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm
A concurrent RESOLUTION

claiming sovereignty under the tenth amendment to the constitution of the united states over certain powers, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.


But this has been explained in the thread already
 

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a far right conservative news page is hardly what i would could relaible news , but thats my opinion , anyway for a the record i am a conservative liberla if yiou had to class me , i read a lot of stuff on worldnet in the past and its all a bunch of tinfoil hat fans

its not America breaking up its states saysing now to some ferderal issues the states are saying no to which they have in the past and will do in the future , nothing more , just a lot of hot air and empty heads , but america is not the only country with them

Your point would be valid if that was our only source... but as was stated up above... you could have looked at all the sources....
 

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Not that much of a surprise. While the Republicans were in power they put a lot of effort into giving the individual states much more autonomy
 

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My goodness people... OF COURSE it means they don't want to break apart the US. Though... believe me... this is a precursor to it. USSR 1990's, Yugoslavia 1990's were just test subjects. All that we want to "preserve out sovereignty" is just a smoke screen. Read up on the break up of Yugoslavia, not taking into account the huge spin put on it by the western media where Serbs were guilty of everything. Three power hungry morons (one Muslim Bosnian, One Croat and one Serb) practically divvied up the country for a reason. It will possibly take much longer with the US, but it will happen eventually.
 

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by the way... just to give a little bit of respect to Hellbilly... not all of these measures have passed... and there is no guarantee that any of the other proposed measures will see the light of day. He is partly right when he hints that these kinds of murmurings have been going on for many years... but we have just never seen this many measures introduced all at the same time. Is Obama worried about it... probably not. But the point is valid... the Federal Government is just too big.

That Nolan Chart site gives a nice breakdown of where these guys are coming from. They are typically more libertarian conservatives.
 

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If you Google this you only get one site which the OP quoted from.
And in the links provided from the different states give bland information, if limiting power from Congress means sovereignty then hell ya, USA lost 3 states
 
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If you Google this you only get one site which the OP quoted from.
And in the links provided from the different states give bland information, if limiting power from Congress means sovereignty then hell ya, USA lost 3 states

Yeah, nothing like a little MyBB sensationlism :D
 

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If you Google this you only get one site which the OP quoted from.
And in the links provided from the different states give bland information, if limiting power from Congress means sovereignty then hell ya, USA lost 3 states

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(21...-2010/Journal/House/pdf/2009-HJ-01-22-002.pdf

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

you can also read

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81631

If you're getting behind NH, MO, OK, MT, MI, HI, and WA in their stand against the Federal gov't, Arizona is now on board, too!
 

boramk

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How about some Youtube links while you're at it? They sure install knowledge in people.
 

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speaking FROM the US - er no, 9 states haven't 'declared sovereignty' (as far as I know) - here and there, local representatives are putting resolutions forward - but its not law, or binding. (Like that city, I forget which, which voted to impeach Bush)
It's kind of symbolic and no big deal.
I recall something recently regarding New Hampshire - which btw - has the cheapest smokes on the East Coast. But no ACTUAL 'secession' from the federal government authority.
That would be totally cool if/when the US starts to fragment - but nothing yet.

Bear in mind, the US is running on special improved magic imaginary extra printed money at the moment - and people here are freaking out at - gee, having to live 'within their means' and behave like normal people. They're not used to doing this :) Ditto the idea of 'saving money.' Wah wah wah, lots of crying here...
Its a lot of fun to be in the midst of...

When TSHTF and 'real' secession occurs, then the fun will begin - but I doubt it, the ruling regime here'll just round up the dissidents and that'll be that. They'll be disappeared into FEMA concentration camps - which have already been built and are sitting waiting for occupants.
America now, is NOT the America that the founding fathers created - (or 'as seen in The Patriot') so don't get your hopes up :)


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Bear in mind, the US is running on special improved magic imaginary extra printed money at the moment - and people here are freaking out at - gee, having to live 'within their means' and behave like normal people. They're not used to doing this :) Ditto the idea of 'saving money.' Wah wah wah, lots of crying here...
Its a lot of fun to be in the midst of...

When TSHTF and 'real' secession occurs, then the fun will begin - but I doubt it, the ruling regime here'll just round up the dissidents and that'll be that. They'll be disappeared into FEMA concentration camps - which have already been built and are sitting waiting for occupants.
America now, is NOT the America that the founding fathers created - (or 'as seen in The Patriot') so don't get your hopes up :)


*I'm LG and I support this message*

What no 'Hope and change", "Yes we can" :eek:

So where you going to go to when they start chucking people into concentration camps?
 

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No, the office of the President is not affected in any way... just what his responsibilities are. Basically they are saying to him... stick to your business (defense) and we will stick to ours. They want him to cut back on federal spending and downscale the huge federal monster. But Obama is a democrat... and democrats by their very nature want to give lots of money to the poor unwed mothers who have eight kids and several boyfriends, two of whom are in prison.

Democrats = spend money on welfare
Republicans = spend money on wars

Ho, ho, not this one! He might be spending big on welfare but most of the trillions he dishes out goes to the welfare of poor cry-babies like big biz and big banks ;)
 
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