A bunch of Android info for your guys

mith

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I'm not a great "app" fan, and only actively use about 5 applications (all of which are reference types, like birding guides, wine lists, etc.), so am not too bothered about the availability of specific Android apps. Web browsing on the Desire beats the experience on the iPhone, making the browser a great alternative for anything I don't have installed on the droid in app form.

I am on the lookout for a good wine app. Which app are you using for wine lists?
 

Pyro

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Astro has a SMB module, works 100%. It also has a function to backup all your apps, and it does so VERY quickly....

ES also has a program backup.

I'll try Astro again sometime... but ES works fine for my needs.
 

Pyro

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G1 - ouch. Let just pretend that didn't happen - like the Batman movies in the '80s and '90s...

Hehe, it's still got plenty of functionality. Heck, I might retire it to a glorified GPS in my car if I ever get an upgrade.

There are plenty apps and rowing fast, but app number is kinda irrelevant. A study about 6 months ago of iPhone apps showed that the 1000th most popular app was installed on just over 1% of devices and the 2000th most popular app was installed on only a small fraction of a percent of phones. The lesson being that once you get over 3 or 4 thousand apps it doesn't really make much difference how many apps there are since everything after the 3000th most popular app is only installed on the phones of the developer (and their family). Android's 100 000+ apps put it way above the threshold.

I think it's more important to look at the range of apps, and this is where Android wins.

The iPhone only got a compass with the 3GS, so android had a year and a half head start in augmented reality apps and other uses for the compass.

The iPhone only got an autofocus camera with the 3GS, so android is way ahead in apps like barcode scanners etc, that need autofocus.

The iPhone only just got multitasking with iOS4, so android is waaaay ahead in apps that need to run in the background (there are quite a few of these that I find indispensable)

Then there are those types of apps that Apple just don't allow, especially when they duplicate core functionality. This means that there are tons of apps for alternative dialers, keyboards etc for android that you don't get for iPhone.

I think Android has a better range of apps...

Very good point. Apple is in the lead with the gyro though - that's something we'll probably see soon on Android devices, as it's much more responsive than a digital compass.

The default Andoid market needs some better categorisation to keep up with all the apps.
Relative 'crap' like sound boards, or celebrity ringtones and other such clutter up various categories.
AppBrain is one improvement I can highly recommend.

I'd also love for updates to be more automated. Updating 10+ apps is a schlep.

One other thing that did come up in various discussions though:
Apple users are used to paying for small things through iTunes, and are more likely to buy an app from the store.
Android users seem to prefer the free apps.
 

duncan1a

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I'd also love for updates to be more automated. Updating 10+ apps is a schlep.

FroYo takes care of this with automatic updates and update all. Automatic updates let you set particular apps to update automatically, update all is a just a button that runs all updates
 

Pyro

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FroYo takes care of this with automatic updates and update all. Automatic updates let you set particular apps to update automatically, update all is a just a button that runs all updates

Awesome - I might load that 2.2 beta from Cyanogen tonight and see what it's like.
 

Tim182

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Recently got an android and its absolutely amazing. Nothing the ios can keep up with in my opinion. And the apps are great too, there's everything one could possibly wish for.
 

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I was thinking that Android would be quite a slow sluggish nightmare to work with. (blame that on the G1)
Imagine my suprise when i realise its bloody awesome. I seriously would find it difficult to not recommend an Android device to someone.
 

JP_

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Hi Guys hope its ok to post this here just looking for some guidance.

I rooted my Desire, i am now wanting to install Rom Manager onto the rooted phone (after which i will load LeeDroid ROM etc)

I have read some people talking about partitioning the SD card is this necessary? And if so how exactly do i do this?

PS I used a second SD card as the Gold Card and now have my standard 4GB card in now which hasnt been formatted or anything since i got the phone.

EDIT: Ok i got it right i just left the card as is and copied the Rom to it then loaded it with rom manager.
 
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DAE_JA_VOO

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I have read some people talking about partitioning the SD card is this necessary? And if so how exactly do i do this?

All depends if you want your apps on you SD card. There are two different kinds of Apps2SD. One is the legacy one, and one is the new one from Froyo. You WANT to use the older one, not the Froyo one, so a partition on your MC for your apps is a good idea :)
 

francoislr

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Rom Manager has the option to partition. I got a new 16gb card yesterday, and I just used a live Ubuntu disk and partitioned with gparted. Was much easier that way for me considering that originally Rom Manager did not work for me. When I partitioned last night I made my app partition 2gb, which was a stupid move I think on my part. Got to say I almost filled my 500mb partition when I first did it, but I was playing around, so that is understandable. So yeah, at some point I will have to partition again...on an every day usage phone 500gb will be more than enough, and I am nearing the end of the hard core playing around part.
 

Pyro

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Rom Manager has the option to partition. I got a new 16gb card yesterday, and I just used a live Ubuntu disk and partitioned with gparted. Was much easier that way for me considering that originally Rom Manager did not work for me. When I partitioned last night I made my app partition 2gb, which was a stupid move I think on my part. Got to say I almost filled my 500mb partition when I first did it, but I was playing around, so that is understandable. So yeah, at some point I will have to partition again...on an every day usage phone 500gb will be more than enough, and I am nearing the end of the hard core playing around part.

500GB :)

Yeah - 512MB seems like plenty.

I also had LOTS of things installed the first time I got the phone, but wasn't really using half the stuff. At the moment I'm probably under 128MB on the SD with the handful of things I have installed.
 

francoislr

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Hehe! My bad...But we will settle...512MB (there, got it right) gives enough space to maneuver and to play around. At some point there will be big apps, but currently all big apps (mostly games) install a small apk and keeps/downloads it's data to the SD anyways.
 

Maddmatt

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Is there any way I can find out which apps are using my data including when and how much? I have 3G watchdog and I want to figure out what is using data even when I have automatic synching off and have turned off auto refresh/sync/whatever in every app that has such a setting.

I don't want to completely turn off 3G data when I'm not on Wifi because then my phone location tracking wont be able to work if the phone goes missing. Something is using data without a good reason and I'd like to find out what it is.
 

rorz0r

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So I'm running the official 2.2 and frankly a bit disappointed with it. Sooooo, have they figured out how to root it yet? (DJV making me jealous :()
 

rorz0r

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Yeah I've already installed the actual official one which updates the bootloader so you can't root (yet) as far as I know.

Checked and I have hboot-0.92.0001
 
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