"A Game of Thrones" discussion thread

Polymathic

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I'm not sure I even care anymore. The fact is that to defeat Cersei all they have to do is send Arya to King's Landing. My question is how are they going to make the next three episodes interesting given that fact.
They'll probably make Cersei kill a Dragon
 

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Yup, no-one needs to listen to Dany now, her dragons will be ballista'd in the next round. democratic independence for all the republics of westeros.

Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony

A Python reference! Rep for you sir...
 

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I'm not sure I even care anymore. The fact is that to defeat Cersei all they have to do is send Arya to King's Landing. My question is how are they going to make the next three episodes interesting given that fact.
Next 2 episodes will be cleaning up Westeros and Cersei's planning. Actual battle will come at the end.

Don't think there'll be 2 back to back battles.
 

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I think they missed an opportunity here to make this a truly epic episode: I would have liked to see the NK mortally wound Arya, who then manages to kill him before dying in Bran's arms
 

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Next 2 episodes will be cleaning up Westeros and Cersei's planning. Actual battle will come at the end.

Don't think there'll be 2 back to back battles.
My point is there is no need for a battle. Arya goes to Kings Landing and kills people and takes their faces until she gets next to Cersei and cuts her throat. After that her army bends the knee to Dany, Jon or whoever, because what else are they going to do.
 

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My point is there is no need for a battle. Arya goes to Kings Landing and kills people and takes their faces until she gets next to Cersei and cuts her throat. After that her army bends the knee to Dany, Jon or whoever, because what else are they going to do.
That's not a fair fight.
 

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1. Arya is magic. Seriously. I don't know why people are taking issue with this. She is a faceless man, or at least has their powers, and is essentially the most powerful warrior in Westeros. Incidentally, the knife she killed the Night King with looked like dragon glass to me, not her valerian steel dagger.
Anyway, I think she had plenty of time to do whatever before turning up in the gods wood. My problem is that she needed to be rescued by The Hound and Berric in the first place. Although, maybe that was just about her having a moment of self-doubt which is then dispelled by the red priestess.

The Long Night is basically the same story as Helmsdeep. We know Gandalf/Arya is going to save the day, but instead of watching how they go about it we watch everyone else fighting 'til the last breath. Like I said, Arya, like Gandalf is magic, and she works in mysterious ways. The trick that has to be preformed in a story where everyone knows that the day will be saved (because that's how stories work) is making the audience forget that they know it on an emotional level, or at least make them doubt it. The way they did it here, and in Helmsdeep was by showing all the good guys being beaten, killed, and losing hope, instead of showing the plucky John McCane/Arya slogging his/her way towards the villain before the boss fight. The major flaw/beauty of fantasy is that you can solve any problem with magic. The problem then becomes how do you make the audience want you to solve the problem with a wave of a wand? The answer in the Long Night, and Helmsdeep is that you fill them with enough despair that they're begging for the inevitable miracle.

I get that they wanted Arya’s attack to be a surprise ie just when we thought all was lost. But what I’m saying is it wasn’t as successful a story technique as it should have been, otherwise I wouldn’t have felt there were unanswered questions as it happened.

We all know Arya is a real warrior. But they actually have to tell the story - there was too big a gap imo which was left unfilled which detracted from the moment I thought.

But anyway it was a minor thing. GOT generally sets a higher standard so it jarred more than the same thing in a simple action movie
 

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WTF? Did I miss something? Who resurrected him?
2 of his favourite characters being alive

I'm a bit late but thought the episode was great and gripping. The darkness added to the atmosphere so no complaints from me there. As much as I dislike Uber Arya the kill was unexpected, hope Bran explains wtf happened in the next episode.

My only real gripe was the lack of big character deaths and that Dothraki charge
 

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