"A Game of Thrones" discussion thread

[Fulcrum29]

Every show has faults. This is fiction, not real life. Take it for what it is and you won't be so angry...

The fiction is the show, so what you are trying to say is that faults within fiction is fiction within fiction. I am confused.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

The fiction is the show, so what you are trying to say is that faults within fiction is fiction within fiction. I am confused.

Huh

I'm saying stop expecting it to play out like real life and take it for what it is.

It's like people asking for video games to play more like real life, but don't question why a char can survive 10 shots to the face...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Huh

I'm saying stop expecting it to play out like real life and take it for what it is.

It's like people asking for video games to play more like real life, but don't question why a char can survive 10 shots to the face...

You don't get it. They changed direction. Things have already been said and done in the series, now they are altering things to adapt for this one episode. It is amending the story, nothing to do with real life or the books.

Melisandre's prophecy was adapted for this one purpose which had previously nothing to with the Night King. It is simple continuity errors which you now assume as real life issues for me. Angry, lol, confused, yes.

 

[hellfire]

Thing is, once you hear it, you can’t unhear it... and what else makes sense?

Watch it again with subtitles and let us know?

 

[greg0205]

Watch it again with subtitles and let us know?

[YELLS]

Changes *what* he “yells” how exactly?

 

[Nerfherder]

The child will still be legitimate heir to the throne.

"An" heir not the heir.

Robert was only made King because all the Targs were either dead or abdicated. The entire existence of Dany and Jon invalidates that entire Baratheon claim to the throne.

The other thing is that possession is 99% of the law - So Cersi holds the throne as Queen regent - with no valid claim. Her only legitimacy is that she actually sits on the throne. She could argue that she was the bastard child of the mad king but there is no one who can back that claim up.

 

[Fulcrum29]

"An" heir not the heir.

Robert was only made King because all the Targs were either dead or abdicated. The entire existence of Dany and Jon invalidates that entire Baratheon claim to the throne.

The other thing is that possession is 99% of the law - So Cersi holds the throne as Queen regent - with no valid claim. Her only legitimacy is that she actually sits on the throne. She could argue that she was the bastard child of the mad king but there is no one who can back that claim up.

No. Do you know about Robert's Rebellion and that they collapsed the Targaryen dynasty? Only royalists support the Targaryen line for legitimacy. The only true royalist around is Daenerys if you can point out any other supporting house?

You make it out to be that the Battle at the Trident served of no purpose for the Rebels.

Stannis Baratheon was in some way in a similar position as Gendry, for if Gendry is to be king either there needs to be proof, Cersei must accept him as her son or present himself as the true king (as Stannis planned) for the people to choose and accept.

 

[Polymathic]

"An" heir not the heir.

Robert was only made King because all the Targs were either dead or abdicated. The entire existence of Dany and Jon invalidates that entire Baratheon claim to the throne.

The other thing is that possession is 99% of the law - So Cersi holds the throne as Queen regent - with no valid claim. Her only legitimacy is that she actually sits on the throne. She could argue that she was the bastard child of the mad king but there is no one who can back that claim up.

The one with the biggest army or the most Dragons claims legitimacy of the throne. Lines of succession don't mean shyte.

 

[thestaggy]

No. Do you know about Robert's Rebellion and that they collapsed the Targaryen dynasty? Only royalists support the Targaryen line for legitimacy. The only true royalist around is Daenerys if you can point out any other supporting house?

You make it out to be that the Battle at the Trident served of no purpose for the Rebels.

Stannis Baratheon is in some way in a similar position as Gendry, for if Gendry is to be king either there needs to be proof, Cersei must accept him as her son or present himself as the true king (as Stannis planned) for the people to choose and accept.

Could possibly get the Sand bastards to bring Dorne in to the war. They would have a reason to attack Cersei.
Yara's Greyjoy faction and she is going to be the one that triumphs when Euron inevitably dies.
House Stark
House Arryn
With the Freys eliminated by Arya, the Tully's can reclaim Riverrun. Edmure should still be alive.
Possibly House Tarly (through Sam), who now lord over Highgarden.

 

[Urist]

Cercei ftw, she's way better at smirking than Arya, she deserves the throne.

 

[greg0205]

Could possibly get the Sand bastards to bring Dorne in to the war. They would have a reason to attack Cersei.
Yara's Greyjoy faction and she is going to be the one that triumphs when Euron inevitably dies.
House Stark
House Arryn
With the Freys eliminated by Arya, the Tully's can reclaim Riverrun. Edmure should still be alive.
Possibly House Tarly (through Sam), who now lord over Highgarden.

Book Doran is all-in on Dany, so yeah, House Martell needs to be on your list.

 

[Polymathic]

Could possibly get the Sand bastards to bring Dorne in to the war. They would have a reason to attack Cersei.
Yara's Greyjoy faction and she is going to be the one that triumphs when Euron inevitably dies.
House Stark
House Arryn
With the Freys eliminated by Arya, the Tully's can reclaim Riverrun. Edmure should still be alive.
Possibly House Tarly (through Sam), who now lord over Highgarden.

Show runners not going to touch Dorne after the backlash they got from fans for the way they handled that story line.

 

[daveza]

that is some mental ****

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjfkvi

uhm....

 

[daveza]

Where is Yara Greyjoy during all of this ?

 

[SaiyanZ]

Spoiler

It may also be desperation, knowing that he is too late. Arya still had to get past a wight wall and 6th sense White Walkers to get to the Night King (who pretty much sense it all). I’m sorry to say, but Arya may have mastered the shadows, but she hasn’t mastered death. What do we say to the god of death... cheap, they made it very cheap in a very expensive production.

Come on, the writers even adapted Melisandre’s ‘prophecy’ to accommodate this one episode. That had everything to do with the list, with Melisandre added to the list. They even rearranged the eye colours to associate blue with the Night King.

After everything John has been through, I don't think he would just give up like that and stand there for the dragon to kill him. He obviously knows he is no match for the dragon so he could have just left it and kept trying to move towards the Night King which he had being doing the whole episode. But he stayed with the dragon instead.

 

[Suspect99]

Do you really think so? Did you think the Night King was going to win?

Original game of thrones would have had them all killed at winterfell and left Cercei to fight the night king

 

[LazyLion]

Where is Yara Greyjoy during all of this ?

She went with her ships back to the iron islands to retake the throne there (while Euron is gone to King's Landing) and to be a fall back position just in case Winterfell didn't survive the army of the dead. She told all of this to her brother after he freed her and before he left for Winterfell.

 

[LazyLion]

You guys are taking this way to seriously... it's a fictional TV series where the aremies fight multiple battles and yet somehow always are replenished in time for the next battle.

 

[Lupus]

You guys are taking this way to seriously... it's a fictional TV series where the aremies fight multiple battles and yet somehow always are replenished in time for the next battle.

Wait there isn't a barracks they can just pop more troops out of? I mean I understand hero units are limited but the general population??

 

[stefan9]

Show runners not going to touch Dorne after the backlash they got from fans for the way they handled that story line.

They deserved it for the way they absolutely butchered what will be an epic storyline in the books.