"A Game of Thrones" discussion thread

AfricanTech

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1.George RR Martin is 64
2. The life expectancy in America: 78.64 years (2011)
3. He takes an average of 3 years to write a book
4. He has around 14 years left in his life
5. He could write 4 more books (we rounded it down, as we don't want a unfinished book.)
6. Fact 5 does not consider his age, will he be able to write when he is that old?
7. He has planned 2 more books meaning he should be around 70 years old when he is done.
8. Will he end the series there?
9. He is getting slower, his last book took about 6 years to come out whereas his previous ones had all taken 2 or 3 years.

Well hopefully he leaves enough notes around for someone to finish (like Wheel of Time).

There are a couple of authors around who write in this style (kill your main characters) now.
 

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Well hopefully he leaves enough notes around for someone to finish (like Wheel of Time).

There are a couple of authors around who write in this style (kill your main characters) now.

you are confused.

He has already laid out what needs to happen... he just needs to turn that in to 1000 pages.
 

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Indeed, in her "bed of blood". That's how Ned and Howland find her before her "promise me, Ned" and dying bit.
Rhaegar was supposed to have kidnapped Lyanna and that, with Aerys killing Ned's father and brother were what got Robert's rebellion started. Read the book again... Ned never has anything negative to say about Rhaegar, the man who supposedly kidnapped and raped his sister. It's all from Robert's POV. Also, the Kingsguards (and that I think is pretty important) Rhaegar leaves at the Tower of Joy to defend Lyanna are led by Arthur Dane, Rhaegar's best friend and a night Ned describes as: "the finest night I have ever seen". Why, if not to defend his unborn child who would be third in line to the Iron Throne? Rhaegar, not such a bad guy IMO.

^^That is my impression.

I cannot remember if it was in the last book where a discussion took place about the true heir of the throne and the reference was to a man, not a woman. This true king was raised as a commoner, lived with commoners, made fishing nets, traveled and learned many different languages. I'm just not sure if I want that man to be Jon Snow. In a way he fits the profile?
 

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^^That is my impression.

I cannot remember if it was in the last book where a discussion took place about the true heir of the throne and the reference was to a man, not a woman. This true king was raised as a commoner, lived with commoners, made fishing nets, traveled and learned many different languages. I'm just not sure if I want that man to be Jon Snow. In a way he fits the profile?

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But, but, but, but - the end of the last book
 

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[spoiler alert]









But, but, but, but - the end of the last book

POTENTIAL SPOILERS

















Why is Mel there and not with SB?

Also, if you get into the ASOIAF prophecies, there are two relevant ones... The Prince that was Promised and Azor Ahai. Most think they are one and the same, I don't. I think one character is the "prince" and they'll end up on the Iron Throne, prophecy fulfilled. Azor Ahai, on the other hand, is supposed to save Westeros from the Others. Now, provided Mel can serve up a little "reborn" with fire action... See where I am going with this?
 

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It seems weird that the show producers ended the season where they did. If I was producing the show, I think I would have ended it with the red wedding. The season finale felt a bit meh to me.
 

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It seems weird that the show producers ended the season where they did. If I was producing the show, I think I would have ended it with the red wedding. The season finale felt a bit meh to me.

I disagree, it closed with a sense of direction as opposed to a wtf cliffhanger climax, also, I think many people`s patience with all the negative stuff might be wearing thin.
 

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I disagree, it closed with a sense of direction as opposed to a wtf cliffhanger climax, also, I think many people`s patience with all the negative stuff might be wearing thin.

You do know the book that season 3 is currently covering is 10+ years old and the first half of book 3 of 7 right?

EDIT: That is to say the producers of the TV series don't really decide what happens, they more or less follow the book.
 

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I enjoyed the final episode. I like the way they did it with the climax in episode 9 and the wrap up in episode 10.

Bring on Season 4!
 

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You do know the book that season 3 is currently covering is 10+ years old and the first half of book 3 of 7 right?

EDIT: That is to say the producers of the TV series don't really decide what happens, they more or less follow the book.

I know that the series follows the books quite closely, but I didn`t know that they start and end a season where each book starts and ends. Is the 3rd book in 2 volumes, or did they just end the season half way though?

Been reading about the history, the lore and the houses, which adds a lot to the series.... will read the actual books now while we wait for next year.
 

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I know that the series follows the books quite closely, but I didn`t know that they start and end a season where each book starts and ends. Is the 3rd book in 2 volumes, or did they just end the season half way though?

Been reading about the history, the lore and the houses, which adds a lot to the series.... will read the actual books now while we wait for next year.

The Third book was split in half in many published editions because of it's huge size.
They are following this traditional split edition.
 

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I agree with Jabberwocky and Gary and Bar0n has a point... ASOS is a 1200 page book and I think the show is following the publisher's SAS and BAG , two edition telling of it. There would certainly be enough material.
This week's episode had cliff hangers of it's own with Arya and Jon, hell man, even Stannis, Jaime and Theon got one, but it wasn't as dark as last week's. Viewers who threw their hands up and said "no more," after last week might appreciate that.

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Personally, I'd hate to have the Joffrey/Tyrion/Oberyn/Jaime/Tywin/Petyr/Sansa and Lysa bits rushed thank you very much, and there's the small issue of that epilogue as well... Pretty close to ten episodes right there.
 

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I know that the series follows the books quite closely, but I didn`t know that they start and end a season where each book starts and ends. Is the 3rd book in 2 volumes, or did they just end the season half way though?

Been reading about the history, the lore and the houses, which adds a lot to the series.... will read the actual books now while we wait for next year.

Yes, the 3rd book was broken up into two volumes. Although I think in some parts of the world they simply bound it into one book.
 

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This show would have been awesome if they used flashbacks to explain some of the back stories instead of having the actors mumble them. Robert with his war hammer, his fight with Rhaegar, Ned's reflections when he was rotting in the dungeon, the Kinglasyer's kingslaying, the sacking of King's Landing, the mad king, etc.
 
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