A question to the non christians

[nocilah]

Quantum mechanics is not a hypothesis and is theory. Practical theory.

i know.

heaven and hell is a hypothesis. one can not deny that christians assume there is a heaven and a hell to explain their moral obligations to others ect.

 

[DragonLogos]

Blessed are the Greek

 

[nthdimension]

show me an experiment that proves string theory or quantum theory?

String theory experiments are something on which physicists are currently working. The experiments will not require that those conducting them believe in string theory in order for them to work.

So which science experiments do require belief?

 

[noxibox]

Blessed are the Greek

Blessed are the cheesemakers.

Thats the problem right there. You limit yourself to your own constraints and beliefs.

Questioning does not indicate limiting oneself.

Why does the proposed experiment require thinking about your problem? Why is it necessary to be in a 'subservient' position? Could a chemistry lecturer give a good reason why it is necessary to dance around the table before performing an experiment?

If life is about experiments and nurturing results then when does the creativity of discovering science come in?

Science requires both.

After all the theory of relativity had no experiments or math to begin with.

Einstein did propose phenomena we should observe if his theories were correct. All science starts with an idea. Seeing something and wondering about it. Ultimately the goal is to produce evidence to back up a proposed theory.

So did Einstein just write some flowery prose about relativity? Is it still around because Einstein said it is so and his followers diligently inculcate this belief in their children? In thousands of years will they still be claiming it is true because Einstein was just so great he had to be right?

 

[Nod]

The difference between science and religion, is that with science you are allowed to question and disproof a theory, or revise that theory. With religion, thats it, you have to belief blindly, you can't disproof it, as it is inherently perfect as the "word of god".

 

[nocilah]

Why does the proposed experiment require thinking about your problem? Why is it necessary to be in a 'subservient' position? Could a chemistry lecturer give a good reason why it is necessary to dance around the table before performing an experiment?

because by not knowing something you are in a subservient position. as in ignorant as opposed to enlightened.

Einstein did propose phenomena we should observe if his theories were correct. All science starts with an idea. Seeing something and wondering about it. Ultimately the goal is to produce evidence to back up a proposed theory.

all science starts with a belief that there is an explanation for something.

So did Einstein just write some flowery prose about relativity? Is it still around because Einstein said it is so and his followers diligently inculcate this belief in their children? In thousands of years will they still be claiming it is true because Einstein was just so great he had to be right?

no but it has been 2000 years and some people still proclaim gsus is great, even though he didn't really achieve much. both fact.

 

[nocilah]

The difference between science and religion, is that with science you are allowed to question and disproof a theory, or revise that theory. With religion, thats it, you have to belief blindly, you can't disproof it, as it is inherently perfect as the "word of god".

dude it's believe, disbelief, proof and disprove and belief.

anyway - i agree with your post mainly because people are trying to use one to counter the other which is a moronic thing to do because the two are vastly different.

religion is not designed to advance, its very nature does not allow it. It may evolve (look at all the christian sects).

Science is based on advancement.

 

[Nod]

dude it's believe, disbelief, proof and disprove and belief.

English and all it's rules. I blame apartheid

 

[Hossie]

Out of fear for the future "Religion was created"

 

[Claymore]

English and all it's rules. I blame apartheid

That's "its", not "it's".

 

[ToxicBunny]

ohhh.. we should start a bad grammar bashing thread i reckon..

 

[Highflyer_GP]

ohhh.. we should start a bad grammar bashing thread i reckon..

Have a go here

 

[ToxicBunny]

tooo much like effort to read thru it right now, will do so tomorrow and add my 2.5c worth ..

 

[marco]

Am I an athiest if I am not a Christian and don't believe in any man written bible but abide in my own belief which is: Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you? This, and only this, is good enough for me.
After 3 years of study into spirituality I know what to expect when I die. There is no hell and there is no death. No big black whatever your religion.

 

[Nod]

"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"

The Wicca Rede sums it up nicely.

 

[Nick333]

The Wicca Rede sums it up nicely.

Ja, aside for the fact that it's written in pseudo olde english it sums it up nicely. You've got to question the mentality that needs an entire book to tell them how to be good.

 

[Nod]

Complicated text makes room for interpretation, thus leaving the reader with the option to see in the text what he wants to see.