A top university warns that these skilled people are leaving South Africa

[PaulMurkin]

Doctors are leaving- my own GP was one day here, gone the next... he's gone to Canada.

 

[Sarg3_ZN]

Yeah about that, I doubt that those Cuban Doctors are even at B Cur (nursing degree) level.

We can always go to Russia or Singapore, as the ANC top brass do. I'm sure that the health service will pay all costs ! /s

This is if they are even trained medical specialists, as long as there are kick backs our lot couldn't be bother even if the sent us carpenters

 

[krycor]

A broader question needs to be asked about the use of tax payers funds to train specialists who leave soon after(now the usual morons will claim they paid it themselves ignoring the fact that they paid a subsidized cost.. international rate is the actual cost typically or private university rate which is about the same).

Don’t get me wrong, a steady but controlled staff turnover is actually beneficial more so than the traditional stay till you die types but.. too much loss too fast is just plain costly even in business.

I’ll say what people don’t want to hear but.. graduates leaving too soon after finishing especially where employed are a net drain on taxpayers. Perhaps a minimum number years per subsidy for study needs to be considered. Don’t want it.. pay the unsubsidized cost.

Btw the whole brain drain from 3rd world to 1st particularly in healthcare is something thats been and continually being debated as one of many problems faced in the global south. While individual freedom of movement cannot be impeded.. the use of state resources for no benefit to the tax payer is tricky because in some countries there is some indirect value gained like remittance which many African countries benefit significantly from(not so much SA).

 

[cguy]

A broader question needs to be asked about the use of tax payers funds to train specialists who leave soon after(now the usual morons will claim they paid it themselves ignoring the fact that they paid a subsidized cost.. international rate is the actual cost typically or private university rate which is about the same).

Don’t get me wrong, a steady but controlled staff turnover is actually beneficial more so than the traditional stay till you die types but.. too much loss too fast is just plain costly even in business.

I’ll say what people don’t want to hear but.. graduates leaving too soon after finishing especially where employed are a net drain on taxpayers. Perhaps a minimum number years per subsidy for study needs to be considered. Don’t want it.. pay the unsubsidized cost.

Btw the whole brain drain from 3rd world to 1st particularly in healthcare is something thats been and continually being debated as one of many problems faced in the global south. While individual freedom of movement cannot be impeded.. the use of state resources for no benefit to the tax payer is tricky because in some countries there is some indirect value gained like remittance which many African countries benefit significantly from(not so much SA).

I’m inclined to agree, as someone who left themselves after nearly a decade of training, and also seeing so many people just leave after studies.

In my case, I did work a few years for a minimal (at global levels, but good for SA) salary in SA, and I have sent back considerably more than I would have earned each year, which indirectly contributes to taxes/economy.

It’s a little tricky to think of how one could pay back the subsidy - perhaps a certain amount paid off per year or something, while being credited for years worked in SA.

FYI, if one takes something like an NRF bursary to do a postgrad degree overseas, they usually stipulate that for each year they support you, you need to work a year after your studies, when you get back. If you don’t come back or don’t spend a matching time back, you do need to repay the bursary (credited by years worked in SA).

 

[rvZA]

Just make all school leavers doctors. They will figure out what to do as they work.