Accusations fly at human rights hearing into transgender woman's Brazilian wax complaint

buka001

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Legitimate movement?

Should be called disillusioned entitlement, and be treated as a mental illness.

If a guy wants to be a girl or a girl wants to be a guy, it has no bearing on me and should have no bearing on the rights of others.

The problem comes when this doofus decides to co-opt that movement and impinge on the rights of other people to play out his selfish desires.
 

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People are never powerless. They just choose not to act.
Indeed, I said basically powerless... Got family to provide for, kids to feed and educate etc... do you throw it all away cos, its 2019, the mob will burn your life down around you, or do you just get on with it and (as buka001 said above) have faith justice will prevail
 

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There is nothing 'trans' about this guy... hes a creepy **** whos been given a free pc pass to get his jollies on where ever and when ever he wants and anyone calling him on it gets labeled 'ist and 'phobe and business shut down etc.... the only people who can solve this is fellow 'trans', no one else can stop him
He should come to SA and try his pedophile **** on our kids. We'll stop him right smart.
 

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In a way Zoomzoom will not approve?
Meh. Not my problem. In fact this Johnathan prick could go to any number of shithole countries and try his luck. Plenty of them would be a lot less forgiving than even mob justice in SA.

Aunty Zoomer often comes across as part of the world gone mad problem that lets a pedophile predator like this guy think he can get away with it in the first place.
 

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If a guy wants to be a girl or a girl wants to be a guy, it has no bearing on me and should have no bearing on the rights of others.

The problem comes when this doofus decides to co-opt that movement and impinge on the rights of other people to play out his selfish desires.
I agree. That is exactly the problem here. They insist and demand that people acknowledge their delusions.
 

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Meh. Not my problem. In fact this Johnathan prick could go to any number of shithole countries and try his luck. Plenty of them would be a lot less forgiving than even mob justice in SA.

Aunty Zoomer often comes across as part of the world gone mad problem that lets a pedophile predator like this guy think he can get away with it in the first place.

Excuse me, but show me ONE time I have EVER defended, supported, condone, created ANY kind of world in which sexual assault can take place?

A sexual predator can and will use whatever they can to get close to their target of choice. Must we ban scout leaders, teachers, art teachers, sports coaches, dance teachers, doctors, dentists, nurses, social workers... = basically the entire range of otherwise normal professions which have been used as a cover at one time or another for a pervert to get close to their target?

The answer is patently no! But if you are inherently already prejudiced against gay/trans/alphabet soup people then you are going to be more inclined to throw them all under the bus.

And your prejudice isn't right either. Call this perverted paedophile out for what he is, but don't confuse the people he is using as cover for him.
 

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If a guy wants to be a girl or a girl wants to be a guy, it has no bearing on me and should have no bearing on the rights of others.
People have always cross-dressed and you get softer/feminine men and butch women. But no guy can ever be a girl or visa versa, there's a biological difference that can't be breached by feelings or even surgery.
 

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People have always cross-dressed and you get softer/feminine men and butch women. But no guy can ever be a girl or visa versa, there's a biological difference that can't be breached by feelings or even surgery.

Yes but here is the problem - what right do you have to tell them that they can't have their feelings? Because it offends you? Trust me there are many out there who are offended by something about you, and if we start telling people they can't be because ...

So long as they aren't hurting anyone let them be, because it hurts every else more if we start restricting things people want to do / be / feel.
 

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Excuse me, but show me ONE time I have EVER defended, supported, condone, created ANY kind of world in which sexual assault can take place?

A sexual predator can and will use whatever they can to get close to their target of choice. Must we ban scout leaders, teachers, art teachers, sports coaches, dance teachers, doctors, dentists, nurses, social workers... = basically the entire range of otherwise normal professions which have been used as a cover at one time or another for a pervert to get close to their target?

The answer is patently no! But if you are inherently already prejudiced against gay/trans/alphabet soup people then you are going to be more inclined to throw them all under the bus.

And your prejudice isn't right either. Call this perverted paedophile out for what he is, but don't confuse the people he is using as cover for him.
Agreed, but care is warranted. I bet you anything that trans people have disproportionate numbers of sexual predators as compared to the general population, so giving them easy access to say womens bathrooms is a very bad idea.

I know one trans person personally, and he/she is already showing a lot of the same patterns of behavior as the person this thread is discussing.
 

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I bet you anything that trans people have disproportionate numbers of sexual predators as compared to the general population, so giving them easy access to say womens bathrooms is a very bad idea.

I'm pretty sure not, but I do agree that giving men access to women's bathrooms is a bad idea BECAUSE it makes it easier for predators to take advantage. I don't for one second believe that that alphabet soup community have a higher percentage of sexual predators than the rest of the world.

The solution has always been to have 3 bathrooms - male / female / both. Because I'm equally certain there are men who would not like to haul their junk out in front of a woman to try to pee. Some of your little chaps are shy enough as it is without that added pressure.

I realise this makes retrofitting existing bathrooms a painful exercise but honestly you have to accommodate other special needs - wheelchair access, baby changing rooms etc. so this is just one more on the list.
 

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Yes but here is the problem - what right do you have to tell them that they can't have their feelings? Because it offends you? Trust me there are many out there who are offended by something about you, and if we start telling people they can't be because ...

So long as they aren't hurting anyone let them be, because it hurts every else more if we start restricting things people want to do / be / feel.
They can have their feelings/delusions. People are delusional on plenty of topics, not just gender. I have very little problem with the delutions of other people, life is to short.

And I agree with you mental illness is only a problem when the person becomes violent and want to hurt others. There is an argument though for protecting people with mental illness from self harm.
 

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I'm pretty sure not, but I do agree that giving men access to women's bathrooms is a bad idea BECAUSE it makes it easier for predators to take advantage. I don't for one second believe that that alphabet soup community have a higher percentage of sexual predators than the rest of the world.

The solution has always been to have 3 bathrooms - male / female / both. Because I'm equally certain there are men who would not like to haul their junk out in front of a woman to try to pee. Some of your little chaps are shy enough as it is without that added pressure.

I realise this makes retrofitting existing bathrooms a painful exercise but honestly you have to accommodate other special needs - wheelchair access, baby changing rooms etc. so this is just one more on the list.
How are you going to force men who believe they are women to use the "both" bathroom?
 

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I see a lot of new places opt for unisex toilets, with close-able doors so you are alone for the whole time regardless.
 

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Indeed, I said basically powerless... Got family to provide for, kids to feed and educate etc... do you throw it all away cos, its 2019, the mob will burn your life down around you, or do you just get on with it and (as buka001 said above) have faith justice will prevail
Yet justice is not free, not even cheap. It you may be right but at a cost with no roof over your head. Also fraught with perceptions.

To see how this turd tried gaming the system and justice, go through this:
 

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Haven't looked at it yet, but I see twitter calls him a pedophile.
You can call him a pedophile, but don't you dare call him a man or we'll ban you. Twitter.
This bloke had influential friends among the trans community and in the ops of Twitter.
I see many high-profile transwomen have now disowned him.
But do you think I get my account back?
Hollow laugh.
 
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